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Can 10 Year-old $5,700 GPU Beat a New $430 GPU? | Tesla P100 Local AI Review

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Nvidia Tesla P100 (data center accelerator GPU, launched 2016) — tested as a budget option for running local AI models and compared mainly against RTX 5060 Ti.


Key features highlighted (Tesla P100)

  • 16GB 2nd-gen HBM (HBM2), described as still relevant for memory-bound workloads compared to mid-range GPUs.
  • No display outputs (requires a second GPU for monitor output).
  • EPS 12V power connector (not 8-pin) → needs a power adapter (not always included).
  • Comes with a passive heat sink only → requires an external blower/fan; 250W TDP means you can’t run it “cheaply.”

Software/runtime considerations

  • Latest CUDA no longer supports P100, so older CUDA is required.
  • In LM Studio, runtime settings must be adjusted to use older CUDA.
  • For newer workflows (e.g., image generation), PyTorch/CUDA downgrades and additional flags are needed.

Setup / user experience notes (clunkiness vs convenience)

The video describes the P100 as not plug-and-play:

  • Must use another GPU for display output.
  • Requires an EPS 12V adapter (verify before purchase).
  • Needs an external fan solution; the reviewer used a 3D-printed/P100-specific setup and manually controlled fan speed.
  • Requires older CUDA (and additional tweaks for certain apps).
  • Overall: high friction and complexity compared with the consumer RTX card.

Benchmarks and results (P100 vs RTX 5060 Ti)

1) Dense LLM (Qwen 3.6-27B, quant IQ3_XXS)

  • P100
    • Prompt processing (PP): 127 tokens/sec
    • Token generation (TG): 10.37 tokens/sec
  • RTX 5060 Ti
    • Prompt processing (PP): 388 tokens/sec (~3× faster)
    • Token generation (TG): 10.07 tokens/sec (P100 slightly faster)

Interpretation given:

  • P100 struggles in compute-bound prompt processing (dated architecture + lack of tensor cores).
  • P100 remains competitive in memory-bound token generation thanks to HBM2.

2) Mixture of Experts (Qwen 3.6-35B MoE, quant IQ3_XXS)

  • P100
    • PP: 295 tokens/sec
    • TG: 35 tokens/sec
  • RTX 5060 Ti
    • PP: 589 tokens/sec (~2× faster; gap shrinks vs dense model)
    • TG: 52 tokens/sec (P100 loses this time)

Interpretation given:

  • P100 can still be usable, but the advantage becomes less consistent.

3) BF16-type model test (P100 lacks native BF16 support)

  • Reviewer runs: Quant 3.54B at BF16 precision
  • RTX 5060 Ti: “absolutely destroyed” P100 in PP, >4× faster
  • P100: TG only ~10% slower in generation

Interpretation given:

  • BF16 performance penalty is severe due to no BF16 hardware, but the reviewer notes real-world use often relies on quantized GGUF instead of BF16, reducing practical impact.

4) Image generation (ComfyUI workflows)

  • P100: needs PyTorch/CUDA downgrade + flags (noted as tricky)
  • RTX 5060 Ti: much faster
    • ~4× faster with Flux client B
    • ~2.5× faster with Z image turbo

Interpretation given:

  • Compute-heavy generative image tasks are where the P100 becomes especially painful.

Price/value claims

  • Original P100 pricing referenced: $5,700 launch; market price up to ~$7,000 at the time.
  • Current market: as low as ~$80 on eBay.
  • Claimed value strategy:
    • At $80, you can buy six P100s to pool VRAM at roughly the same cost as one RTX 5060 Ti.

Pros (as stated)

  • Strong performance for memory-bound tasks (HBM2 helps in token generation).
  • Budget value: very low acquisition price; potentially good VRAM-per-dollar.
  • Can be viable for local quantized LLMs if that’s your primary goal.

Cons (as stated)

  • Dated architecture and lack of tensor cores → very poor for compute-bound tasks (especially prompt processing).
  • Image generation is painfully slow on P100.
  • Clunky setup: no video output, special power connector, requires external cooling hardware.
  • Software support limitations: requires older CUDA; additional compatibility work for some tools.
  • High power consumption (250W TDP).

Comparisons made

  • Repeated direct comparisons against RTX 5060 Ti across multiple workloads:
    • Dense LLM: P100 slightly better in TG, much worse in PP.
    • MoE LLM: P100 closer in PP; loses in TG.
    • BF16: P100 >4× slower in PP; generation only slightly behind.
    • Image generation: RTX 5060 Ti 2.5×–4× faster.

Overall verdict / recommendation (concise)

  • Recommendation: Buy the Tesla P100 only if you’re specifically targeting cheap local, quantized LLM workloads and you can tolerate setup complexity and slow performance in compute-heavy tasks.
  • If you want a fast, plug-and-play experience, the video strongly favors the RTX 5060 Ti.

Unique points mentioned (consolidated list)

  • P100 is a 2016 data center GPU.
  • 16GB 2nd-gen HBM (HBM2) remains useful vs some mid-range GPUs.
  • P100 can be found for ~$80 on eBay (vs much higher historical pricing).
  • No display output → needs another GPU for monitor.
  • Uses EPS 12V instead of 8-pin → power adapter may be required.
  • Comes with passive cooling → requires external blower/fan; 250W TDP needs proper cooling control.
  • Requires older CUDA (newer CUDA drops support).
  • Dense LLM: PP ~3× slower; TG roughly about equal/slightly better.
  • MoE: PP gap narrows (~2× faster on RTX); TG wins for RTX.
  • BF16: RTX >4× faster in PP; TG only ~10% slower on P100.
  • Image generation: P100 requires more software setup; RTX is ~2.5×–4× faster.
  • Final framing: P100 is a budget VRAM / quant LLM option, but not for plug-and-play speed (prompting + images especially slow).

Speakers

  • The subtitles indicate one primary speaker/reviewer conducting the setup and benchmarks (no distinct multiple-speaker viewpoints were labeled).

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