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Why Isn't This 29M Oz Gold Deposit Being Mined Yet? | Tudor Gold CEO Interview

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Company & Project Overview (Tudor Gold / Treaty Creek)

  • Company focus: Move the Treaty Creek / Goldstorm deposit to production, with the possibility of acquisition or partial partnership later.
  • Ownership structure / key overhangs:
    • Tudor Gold holds ~80% of Treaty Creek.
    • Teton Resources holds ~20%.
    • Tudor also faces a royalty/NSR (<1%) on key claims, reportedly held by Teton Resources (not Tudor insiders).
  • Project scope: ~180 km property area in BC’s Golden Triangle.
  • Resource highlights (Goldstorm deposit):
    • Indicated: 22.6M oz gold (~1 g/t)
    • Inferred: ~5M oz gold (additional)
    • Copper: ~3 billion lb at ~0.2% Cu
    • Silver: ~128M oz silver
    • Combined indicated + inferred: ~28.9M oz gold (noted as a practical total; the speaker cautions against “combining” categories too literally).
  • Strategic location context:
    • Nearby major assets:
      • Newmont Bruce Jack (SE)
      • Seabridge KSM (SW)
    • Seabridge KSM dispute: centers on a planned ~22 km tunnel that could pass through Tudor’s deposit and potentially sterilize ~5M oz.

Strategy & Execution Playbook (What Tudor Says It Will Do)

Build-first approach (not “wait for M&A”)

  • Goal: “Drive the project forward to production.”
  • M&A / takeover: acceptable only if price works; otherwise Tudor intends to build itself.

Mining concept / scale target

  • Mining concept: underground “long hole stope” style approach.
  • Throughput target: ~8,000–10,000 tons/day
  • Gold production target: ~250k–300k oz gold/year
    • Speaker preference: 250k–300k, targeting “tier-one scale.”
  • Mine life framing: 20+ years at that output range.

CAPEX guidance (benchmarking vs Bruce Jack)

  • Bruce Jack example: ~US$841M for a ~4,000 t/day underground operation.
  • Tudor intent: target Goldstorm capex around US$1B–1.5B for a “bigger operation,” with confidence in financing feasibility based on prior experience.

Frameworks / Processes Mentioned (Business Terms)

PA gating decision process

  • Use the PDA / “PA” (Preliminary Assessment) as a go/no-go economic gate:
    • Start with a higher-grade cutoff for faster capex payback.
    • Then progressively lower cutoff after cash payback to “clean up debt” and improve economics.
  • If PA economics don’t work under plausible gold prices, Tudor would adjust the plan / alternative scenario.

Negotiation-first approach (with timeline pressure)

  • Prefer negotiation over “court,” because courts:
    • create long uncertainty
    • reduce control over outcomes.

Drill program logic (phased discovery → resource development)

  • Don’t “hammer” Goldstorm immediately.
  • Instead:
    • Drill around Goldstorm to identify/advance other zones on the same structural trend.
  • Use underground transition later to reduce drilling costs and support more year-round drilling feasibility.

Financing packaging process

  • Build a “construction financing levers” playbook:
    • Equity vs debt vs offtake vs royalty/stream
    • Royalties are disliked, but may be considered selectively depending on market conditions.

Key Business Metrics / KPIs / Targets (Execution-Oriented)

Production & life-of-mine

  • Underground rate: 8k–10k tons/day
  • Gold output: 250k–300k oz/year
  • Mine life: 20+ years

Grades & economic cutoff targets (explicit PA-style KPIs)

  • NSR cutoffs (valuation thresholds):
    • $125 NSR cutoff → ~8.4M oz averaging ~2.5 g/t (speaker notes it’s “from memory” and not to over-literalize)
    • $175 NSR cutoff → ~5.4M oz averaging ~2.8–2.9 g/t
  • Mining cutoff strategy:
    • Start mining north of ~3 g/t
    • Drop cutoff later after capex is repaid
    • Speaker compares to Hemlo operating-style cutoffs described as potentially sub-1.5 g/t-type while profitable (also described from memory).
  • SC1 success criterion (depth ~600–900m):
    • North of ~2.5–3 g/t = “success” (depends on gold price).

Permitting / engineering timelines (process KPIs)

  • Ramp / portal permit:
    • Applied Aug (previous year)
    • Resubmitted before Christmas
    • Waiting for response
    • Speaker expectation: not optimistic about starting portal construction immediately
      • Best case could be “this summer”
      • More likely: focus on getting permit this year, mine next spring
  • PDA/PA timing: expected “this summer” (with some later contradiction, but still referenced as “this summer”)
  • Idealized overall timeline (modeled from Bruce Jack):
    • ~7 years discovery → production (Bruce Jack example)
    • Tudor expectation (idealized framing): ~3 years feasibility + ~3–4 years permitting, then production ~5–6 years from now, depending on alignment.

Cash / funding runway

  • Claims they have cash for:
    • PA
    • drilling program
    • possibly portal if permit timing comes quickly
  • Mentions ~15M flow-through from prior financing intended for drilling “this summer.”

Concrete Examples & Case Studies Used

Predium / Silver Standard track record

  • Claims about scaling and execution:
    • Silver Standard scaled from ~$50M market cap to $2B+
    • Silver resources grew from 0 to 2B+ oz
    • Mine from discovery (Aug 2009) to production (June 2017) in <8 years

Bruce Jack as the primary benchmark

Used to justify feasibility of:

  • underground mining approach
  • permitting speed (“reasonably quickly”)
  • water/tailings approach

Bruce Jack permitting:

  • Provincial approval: March ’15
  • Federal approval: early Aug ’15 (speaker described language/translation delay)

Water/tailings:

  • Claims Bruce Jack used Bruce Jack Lake as part of water management.
  • Speaker states they achieved drinking-water quality outputs.
  • Notes strict Canadian requirements and involvement of Alaskan environmental/public bodies due to water flow.

Key Risks & Blockers (and How Tudor Proposes to Manage Them)

  • Major risk: Seabridge KSM tunnel legal conflict

    • Government (Major Mines Office) stance: no decision on full 22 km tunnel permitting until:
      • Seabridge and Tudor reach an agreement, or
      • court resolves who can block/permit the tunnel through the deposit
    • Tudor views this as a pressure point to force “win-win” negotiations.
    • Speaker estimate: ~5M oz could be impacted.
  • Major risk: fragmented ownership

    • Split ownership between Tudor (80%) and Teton (20%) can complicate deals and market valuation.
  • Financing / dilution risk

    • As a pre-revenue company, continued public-market funding may cause dilution.
    • Tudor claims enough cash for 2026-ish work, but interviewer frames questions around whether it’s sufficient.
  • Permitting uncertainty

    • Ramp permit timing subject to government review cycles; speaker cautious about starting in Sept due to snow.

Actionable Recommendations / Negotiation Options Discussed

Seabridge tunnel resolution options

  • Relocate the tunnel: starting proposal (from Oct 2017) to move tunnels ~1 km north of Goldstorm.
  • Value-based compensation: idea of payment/royalty for sterilized ounces (speaker mentions “transit royalty” as brainstorming).
  • Win-win framing: negotiate schedule/cost impacts, acknowledging tunnel length is critical path for Seabridge construction and production timing.
  • Potential operational integration JV (limited):
    • Seabridge could accept a JV partner, but speaker suggests Tudor’s deposit may not allow full access to tunnel infrastructure “at heart.”

Teton 20% acquisition plan

  • Objective: buy remaining 20% from Teton this year.
  • Financing preference: use equity (not cash-heavy), on the basis that:
    • Teton shareholders should participate in upside from assembling the project to improve market cap and negotiations.

Financing construction playbook

  • Debt possible if paired with offtake (example cited: Bruce Jack—private equity + stream + buyback right).

  • Royalties/streams: Tudor dislikes them but may use tactically depending on market conditions.

  • Preference for mechanisms enabling buyback after fast startup cash flow.

Marketing / Investor Relations Posture

  • Marketing described as secondary to execution deliverables.
  • Events planned:
    • Beaver Creek: September
    • Swiss Mining: November
  • Potential additional outreach in spring tied to PA progress + legal resolution updates.

Key Timelines Mentioned (Consolidated)

  • This summer: expect PA/PDA
  • This year (objectives):
    • Resolve Teton 20% acquisition (described as a second “deal with Tutin” objective)
    • Reach resolution with Seabridge on land/tunnel dispute
    • Advance key permitting pathway for ramp/portal (or at least move it forward)
  • Drilling program:
    • Mobilize mid-May (two rigs)
    • ~10,000 m planned + 5,000 m+ reserve
  • Portal/ramp permitting & start:
    • Speaker not optimistic about starting immediately “this summer”
    • More likely aim: next spring

Presenters / Sources (as Mentioned)

  • Presenter / interviewee: Joe (Tudor Gold CEO) (full name not clearly stated in the provided subtitles)

  • Host / interviewer: Resource Talks host (Joe at Resource Talks)

  • Project/market references: Seabridge, KSM, Newmont (Bruce Jack)
  • Other referenced entities: Teton Resources, Treaty Creek / Goldstorm, Major Mines Office
  • Platform/sponsor mentioned: Terra Hutton; resource talks.com; setterplus.ca

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