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  • Joseph Hogue (Bodie Nation)

Cybersecurity “revenue boom” thesis + timing

Hogue argues there’s a 3–5 month window for cybersecurity companies to get “in front of” an AI-driven surge in cyber attacks.

Rationale / examples cited:

  • Palo Alto Networks (PANW): CEO/product leadership (Lee Clarich) reportedly warned of the 3–5 month window.
  • Anthropic: Mention of an AI model (“Mythos”) being delayed; framed as a reason hackers could be “overdriven” once released/used.
  • Google: Referenced stopping a major AI-led attack and warning that hackers already use available tools.

Positioning note:

  • Hogue says AI is not expected to replace cybersecurity demand; instead, it increases it.

Portfolio theme and performance claims

  • The cybersecurity theme is described as the largest theme in Hogue’s portfolio.
  • Performance claim: returns upwards of ~65% across five holdings.
  • Hogue says he doubled down over the last six months, including during an “AI software sell-off.”
  • Some holdings are described as down as much as ~50% from October.

Near-term gains (as described):

  • Stocks “jump 60% in just eight weeks” after his earlier call (context: his Apr 1 recommendation).
  • Cybersecurity stocks up as much as ~71% since that “April update” (about 8 weeks).

Key stocks / instruments mentioned (tickers)

Primary cybersecurity picks (7 pure-play names researched)

  • Palo Alto Networks (PANW)
  • CrowdStrike (CRWD)
  • Fortinet (FTNT)
  • Zscaler (ZS)
  • Okta (OKTA)
  • Cloudflare (NET) (included in research, but noted as not pure-play)
  • SentinelOne (S) (described as weakest on reported earnings / non-GAAP)

Other equities mentioned

  • Salesforce (CRM)

Semiconductor / AI “picks-and-shovels” mentioned

  • Marvell Technologies (MRVL)
  • Also referenced: Broadcom, Nvidia, SMCI (no tickers explicitly provided beyond MRVL)

ETF mentioned

  • iShares Software ETF (IGV)

Index mentioned

  • S&P 500
    • Hogue discusses a potential drawdown target toward ~7230.

Rates / macro instruments mentioned

  • 30-year Treasury (yield discussed as above 5%)

Methodology / framework shared (valuation approach)

Hogue describes a relative-value method for cybersecurity stocks:

  • Use analyst forecast for revenue and earnings over the next two years
  • Compute a two-year revenue growth rate, then convert it to an annualized revenue growth rate
  • Use expected earnings growth to adjust valuation:
    • Start with P/E, then adjust the P/E by the growth rate (a “growth-adjusted” P/E comparison)
  • Interpretation:
    • High P/Es (range stated: ~23x to ~226x) are treated as normal for the theme; the goal is best relative deals once growth is accounted for
  • Qualitative overlay:
    • Emphasize operating profitability (operating margin) as a competitive advantage

Company-by-company valuation / profitability snapshots (recommendations + cautions)

Zscaler (ZS) — “least expensive” on growth-adjusted P/E; earnings catalyst soon

Key points:

  • P/E: ~51x
  • Growth-adjusted metric: ~2.8x (least expensive on his method)
  • Earnings growth: ~18% annualized
  • Revenue growth forecast: ~24% (this year) and ~20% (next)

Cautions / thesis risk:

  • Considered most at risk if AI threatens the cybersecurity business model.
  • Hogue says management struggles with expectations; the stock has fallen 3 of the last 4 earnings.

Timing:

  • Earnings: Tuesday
  • Options market implies another ~12% move on Wednesday (up or down).

Stance:

  • Hogue says he likes ZS and is picking up more shares ahead of earnings.

Fortinet (FTNT) — expensive on adjusted basis, but strong “cash machine” profitability

Key points:

  • Growth-adjusted P/E: ~4x
  • Earnings growth: ~11% annualized

Catalyst / recent performance:

  • Already reported: beat earnings expectations by 32%
  • Stock reportedly jumped ~20% on the day

Profitability emphasis:

  • Described as the “hands-down best product with cash machine profitability” (no specific operating margin figure provided in the excerpt).

CrowdStrike (CRWD) — “surprisingly inexpensive” adjusted; profitability inflection

Key points:

  • Reported P/E: ~174x
  • Expected earnings growth: ~28% this year and next
  • Profitability turnaround:
    • Operating margin reportedly ~8% loss back in February (negative)
    • Now trending toward profitability “without sacrificing revenue growth”

Growth expectations:

  • Revenue growth forecast: ~22% expected sales growth this year and next

Performance reference:

  • Stock up ~74% since April (in his narrative)

Stance:

  • Hogue calls CRWD one of his largest pure-play cybersecurity holdings.

Palo Alto Networks (PANW) — balance of growth + margin; pricier

Key points:

  • Revenue growth forecast: ~21%
  • Operating margin forecast: ~15% operating margin

Positioning:

  • Hogue believes CRWD could become the largest cybersecurity company later, but argues both can rise.

Market-cap comparison (approx.):

  • PANW ~23% higher than CRWD
  • ~$203B (PANW) vs ~$165B (CRWD)

Okta (OKTA) — valuation support + potential takeover angle; slower growth

Key points:

  • Revenue growth: ~9–12% annualized (identity management)
  • Market share: ~11%, second only to Microsoft (per his description)

Earnings timing:

  • Earnings: Thursday
  • Revenue growth expected: ~9%
  • Earnings expected: flat vs last year

Catalyst / takeover angle:

  • Hogue suggests OKTA may be undervalued and a takeover target.
  • He cites sector acquisition behavior, including:
    • Palo Alto paid $25B to acquire CyberArk
    • He notes CyberArk has only ~3% market share in that identity market

Options note:

  • Options market implies only ~11% move.
  • With a 44% pop since April, he doubts another full ~11% move again soon.

Stance:

  • Hogue will continue to hold OKTA.

Cloudflare (NET) — watchlist / possible future look; framed as riskier

  • Described as potentially facing an “AI software apocalypse risk” due to broader exposure (not cybersecurity-only).

SentinelOne (S) — weakest; negative non-GAAP earnings

  • Framed as “easily the weakest” in the group.
  • Negative earnings on a non-GAAP basis.

Salesforce (CRM) and software/AI macro framing (risk case)

Hogue frames Salesforce as part of a “software apocalypse theme tied to AI.”

Key performance numbers:

  • Stock down ~20% over 5 years
  • Stock down ~36% in the last year

ETF comparison:

  • IGV (iShares Software ETF) rebounded ~26% over the last 8 weeks
  • CRM still down ~7% since mid-April

Valuation note / disclaimer:

  • Hogue says CRM trades at an “attractive discount” and has done well in its prior two quarterly reports.
  • He is “not quite sure” long-term, because AI may eat some software sales.

Timing:

  • CRM earnings: Wednesday

Macro / expectations:

  • Notes pressure on CEO Mark Benioff to deliver > ~11% growth.

Marvell (MRVL) semiconductor earnings + AI catalyst

  • Earnings: Wednesday
  • Price/timeline reference:
    • Stock up ~218% since his prior AI-stock recommendation last year at ~$61/share

Growth outlook (as framed in his narrative):

  • Revenue growth: ~32% this year, ~36% next
  • Earnings growth: ~38% annualized

Risk / caution:

  • Management has a mixed earnings record, disappointing in 2 of last 4 quarters.
  • Mentions an 18% plunge after a prior report.
  • Expects a possible pullback around earnings despite a longer-term view.

Broader market outlook + macro / rates / inflation (risk management)

Earnings backdrop:

  • Market supported by ~28% profit growth.

Valuation:

  • S&P 500 P/E around ~28x
    • Not “nosebleed,” but “not cheap.”

Rates:

  • 30-year Treasury yield above 5%
  • Hogue says this has caused stock-market pain over the past 3 years.

Inflation / Fed focus:

  • Key release: PCE inflation on Friday (Fed’s preferred metric)
  • Forecasts:
    • Headline: ~3.8% over the last year
    • Core: ~3.3%
  • Fed target: 2%
  • He emphasizes energy/gas prices as central to the inflation reading.

Explicit downside/risk call:

  • Even with AI spending, he expects “price in these stocks” may not hold short-term.
  • He’s watching for a 3–5% correction in the S&P 500 toward ~7230 before being “too excited” about new buying.

Disclosures / disclaimers

  • No explicit “not financial advice” disclaimer appears in the provided subtitles.
  • Promotional disclosure: Hogue invites viewers to join the Blossom Investing app via an invite link (described as free) and says it supports the channel.

Presenters / sources referenced

  • Joseph Hogue (Bodie Nation)
  • Lee Clarich, head of product for Palo Alto Networks (PANW) (quoted/warned on the 3–5 month window)
  • Mark Benioff, CEO of Salesforce (CRM) (referenced regarding growth expectations)
  • Anthropic (“Mythos” model referenced)
  • Google (referenced regarding AI exploitation/attack prevention)

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