Summary of "Kann China premium für 55.000€? Experte bewertet elektrischen BYD Han"
Product overview (reviewed car)
- Vehicle: BYD Han (electric), described as the “big brother” of the BYD Seal and a competitor to the Tesla Model 3.
- Price/variant: The tester says the tested car cost just over €50,000 and is in the Emerald Edition (as of March 2024, only 8 were in Europe).
- Drivetrain/performance: All-wheel drive with over 500 hp. Acceleration time shown/discussed at ~3.9s (tested/claimed). Tests performed at ~54–57% SoC during acceleration attempts.
Main features praised (premium/good feel)
- Quiet/comfort at first:
- Little to no rattling/creaking.
- “Average” noise level overall.
- No noticeable wind noise.
- Seatbelt feel:
- Electric belt tensioner tightens firmly (some users reportedly like the connected feel).
- Turning circle:
- Very small turning radius despite “no rear-wheel steering” (compared to cars such as the EQE).
- Display/lighting design (some aspects):
- Premium-looking lighting graphic with a continuous line and BYD-style patterns.
- Rear diffuser-style styling.
- Retractable door handles described as mechanically smooth/high-quality.
- Interior/tech practicality:
- Reversing camera/top view: “nice resolution” in places, especially the rear view.
- Ventilated seats in front and rear.
- Rear seats claimed to be individually adjustable with heating/ventilation (no massage).
- Rear-seat ventilation described as relatively quiet.
- Selfie camera that can slide shut—framed as privacy-respecting.
- Battery type:
- LFP battery (robust, no cobalt).
- Can be charged to 100% and is described as durable for cycles (with reduced charging power mainly in cold weather).
Main problems / cons (repeated and emphasized)
1) Software & driver assistance (biggest negative)
- Active lane keeping / autopilot-like system:
- Called by far the worst lane keeping assist tested.
- Reported unsafe/incorrect behavior in curves:
- Sometimes appears to steer too slowly.
- May not warn.
- Tracks lanes unreliably even at 40–50 km/h where other systems perform better.
- Conclusion: lane keeping/autopilot “lost a lot of ground” vs other EVs tested.
- ESP / stability control calibration:
- ESP interventions described as imprecise and extremely harsh when the tire squeals.
- Reviewer notes ESP may trigger without a clear initial warning light (then later an ESP light appears).
- Throttle response / acceleration delay:
- Delay on acceleration: ~0.1–0.2 seconds.
- Worse: car continues accelerating ~0.1–0.2 seconds after lifting off—called unacceptable and potentially unsafe.
- Overall theme: the software doesn’t match the premium hardware/material feel.
2) Heat/AC and efficiency concerns
- Climate control issues:
- Air conditioning described as relatively loud.
- Heating/cooling requires extreme settings (set to maximum to heat, minimum to cool).
- Reviewer expects improvement via a major BYD software update (current OS described as older).
- Energy consumption:
- Heater efficiency criticized: when heater is needed, consumption increases ~2–3 kWh/100 km (worse than expected from a heat pump).
- When AC is on, consumption rises ~1–2 kWh/100 km.
- Reported consumption around ~21 kWh/100 km in moderate driving; expected ~24–25 kWh/100 km with more realistic speeds and winter effects.
- Range disappointment:
- Reviewer doubts WLTP claims; references hype around promised ~530 km, implying usable range is far less.
3) Charging hardware / regional legal limitation (Germany focus)
The reviewer claims the onboard charging setup creates serious problems in Germany:
- Car draws up to 32A single-phase, violating unbalanced-load rules.
- It is legally limited to 20A single-phase (~4.6 kW), making charging very slow from 0–100%.
- If multiple wallboxes share a connection, one car drawing 32A can prevent others from charging.
- Major complaint: expectation of an ~11 kW-capable onboard charger, compared to what the reviewer says the BYD Seal achieves with better tech.
Verdict: “thumbs down” due to non-premium charging practicality.
4) Brakes & suspension engineering criticisms
- ESP + braking calibration:
- Described as poorly calibrated: brake pedal feel not crisp; brake booster over-energized.
- Rear brakes heavily criticized:
- Reviewer claims rear uses non-internally-ventilated “pizza lid” discs.
- Disappointing for a ~515 hp, >2.3 ton vehicle.
- Concludes rear brakes are not suited for German Autobahn/high-speed demands (possible overheating/glazing risk mentioned).
- Suspension “premium” claim vs reality:
- Front: described as fully adaptive, with sensors measuring acceleration at steering knuckle and very fast damping adjustments; also notes McPherson architecture can contribute to torque steer.
- Rear: reviewer believes adaptive elements/sensing are missing (only front appears truly adaptive).
- Overall estimate: only about ~70% of potential premium engineering (front ~70%, rear worse).
- Wheel alignment / drivability:
- Reviewer notes insufficient caster and possibly camber/toe issues.
- After alignment attempts: caster still too low; rear camber/toe also limited.
- Symptom: steering/handling issues, including needing to actively steer back when accelerating out of corners.
5) “Waste of space” and packaging/charging compartment
- Under-frunk/utility area (“Frank hub” mentioned):
- Reviewer calls it the worst space waste seen on an AWD EV.
- Complains missing/inefficient integration for a frunk charger setup; notes “cobwebs” observed on inspection.
- General statement: “more show than substance.”
Design/build quality: mixed
- Exterior design: visually successful overall.
- Exterior build details criticized:
- Paintwork differences: fuel filler cap and other areas show visible paint variation (called a major “fail”).
- Missing soft-close doors, compared unfavorably to a “Neo” model; mentions Tesla Model S also lacks it, but still expects premium quality.
- Interior materials/UI:
- “Analog” feeling display.
- Rear climate control shown as “personal,” but temps set simultaneously for everyone (called “more show than substance”).
Comparisons made
- Tesla Model 3: competitor; Tesla also used as comparison for autopilot and charging behavior.
- BYD Seal: smaller brother; used for charging tech and repeated software/pedal behavior issues.
- Mercedes/EQE: used as reference for turning circle.
- BMW/Mercedes/Tesla: used as benchmark for “German premium quality.”
- Charging comparison: Han vs BYD Seal, with expectation that Han should offer similar/better onboard charging capability.
Reported key numbers / ratings
- Acceleration time displayed: ~3.9 seconds (also compares to an “exactly 4 seconds” count-down test).
- SoC during test: ~54–57%.
- Heat/efficiency impacts:
- +2–3 kWh/100 km when heater is needed.
- +1–2 kWh/100 km when AC turns on.
- Charging power legality:
- Legal 20A single-phase = ~4.6 kW.
- Claimed illegal/high draw: up to 32A single-phase.
- Battery size: 85 kWh gross (LFP).
- Brake dimensions (front): 370 mm x 32 mm discs (Brembo mentioned).
- Rear brake type: claimed non-ventilated (no specific dimension provided in the excerpt).
- Trustpilot rating (separate ad): “Carbonify” has 4.9/5 customer satisfaction—mentioned as a recommendation for selling/trade-in, not a score for the car.
Overall user experience (reviewer’s feeling)
- First impression: high-quality cabin build, quiet ride, premium lighting/design touches.
- During drive tests: described as frustrating and unsafe-feeling, driven by:
- harsh/imprecise ESP interventions,
- lane keeping assist failing at relatively low speeds,
- delayed throttle and continued acceleration after lifting the pedal,
- brake calibration/pedal feel issues during maneuvering/braking.
- Result: despite premium cues, the reviewer repeatedly concludes the software is “crap” and cannot recommend the vehicle.
Unique points list (condensed, no duplicates)
- Skepticism about how China makes “premium” cars.
- Han positioned as competitor to Model 3; bigger brother of Seal.
- ~€50k price with AWD + 500+ hp.
- Quiet cabin: no rattles/creaks; average noise.
- Air conditioning: loud; heating/cooling only works well at extremes (software-related update expected).
- Sport mode indicators; 3.9s acceleration claim.
- Electric seatbelt tensioner pulls firmly (may bother shoulder-sensitive users).
- Premium exterior lighting effects praised.
- Extremely small turning circle without rear-wheel steering.
- ESP: imprecise, harsh deceleration; confusing/no warnings.
- Throttle delay (0.1–0.2s) plus continued acceleration after lift-off—called unsafe/non-premium.
- Low-speed maneuvering hesitation (“hold-to-creep” behavior).
- Lane keeping assist: vibrations/slow steering; sometimes no warning; fails at 40–50 km/h; worst tested.
- Reversing/top camera: good rear resolution; front camera calibration inconsistent.
- Overall design praised, but rear end described as built too high.
- Emerald Edition: green depth praised; rear styling criticized as subtler/AliExpress-like vs Seal.
- Wireless charging: 40W vs 14W; Emerald costs +€5k largely for interior/paint.
- Retractable door handles mechanically praised, with emergency release.
- Key options: physical key, NFC card/key; BYD app functions.
- Lighting/visibility: under-body/entry lighting and top-view camera praised.
- No side ultrasonic sensors—would matter for construction-zone warnings, though lane keeping issues dominate.
- Head-up display present.
- Design quirk: front resembles hood-open due to hood gap.
- Build: panel gaps fine; paint differences on filler cap/areas are a major fail.
- Charging legality problem in Germany: single-phase imbalance rules; slow charging becomes a dealbreaker; expects ~11 kW capability but allegedly cheaper tech.
- Missing soft-close; unfavourable vs BYD Neo expectations for premium feel.
- Sunroof praised (large glass section + wind guard).
- Rear seating space/adjustability praised; rear display/climate described as misleading/“analog.”
- Under-trunk/frunk packaging criticized as huge space waste; “Frank charger” absent; cobwebs observed.
- Suspension: front adaptive praised; rear adaptive sensing missing; overall ~70% premium potential.
- Front brakes: Brembo 370x32 praised; pedal feel less crisp.
- Rear brakes: criticized as non-ventilated “pizza lid,” inadequate cooling; likely fade risk.
- Wheel speed sensing described as old inductive tech; ESP may be limited by sensing accuracy.
- Alignment: caster too low; limited rear camber/toe; causes steering-back/self-correction issues under acceleration.
- Real-world consumption higher than expected (winter/speed effects).
- Final recommendation: reviewer would not buy; ~€55k is too expensive.
Speaker-specific views / contributors
- Main reviewer (technical/engineering focus, Albert referenced):
- Primary drivers of critiques: lane keeping/autopilot failures, ESP/throttle/braking safety issues, charging legality, rear brakes, suspension hardware, wheel alignment/caster, and efficiency/range.
- Also assesses interior/exterior design and component-level details.
- Albert (mentioned/partner voice):
- Mostly referenced as adding/corroborating observations (features/design details) and to include later; less detailed technical evaluation in this excerpt.
Concise verdict / recommendation
- Verdict: The BYD Han is described as premium in build/lighting and has comfort positives, but the reviewer’s overall conclusion is strongly negative due to:
- major software safety/driver-assist problems (lane keeping + ESP + throttle delay),
- hardware practicality concerns (charging legality/charging speed in Germany),
- plus rear brake/suspension engineering described as not premium enough.
- Recommendation: Do not buy at ~€55,000—the reviewer explicitly says they wouldn’t purchase it, even relative to expectations for a “premium” EV.
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