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Elite Trader: Managing $25 Million at Just 25 Years Old - Ted Zhang

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Elite Trader: Managing $25 Million at Just 25 Years Old - Ted Zhang


Background & Asset Management

Ted Zhang manages $20-25 million personally and co-manages at River Asset Management, which oversees approximately $400 million in assets under management (AUM). The firm primarily focuses on:

  • Downside protection and growth
  • Managing mostly retirement accounts (Roth IRAs, 401ks)
  • Restrictions on leverage and shorting; uses inverse ETFs instead of shorting individual stocks

Ted and his co-manager Connor began as interns, trading their own money before managing client capital. River Asset Management offers two main portfolios:

  • Growction:

    • Represents ~90% of AUM
    • Aims to match S&P 500 returns with lower drawdowns and risk
    • Maximum position size: 8%
  • Turboction:

    • Represents ~10% of AUM
    • More aggressive, aiming to beat the market
    • Position sizes up to 12.5%

Minimum investment per strategy is $100,000. The firm is closing Growction near $400M to launch a new mega-cap and ETF-focused portfolio.


Trading Strategy & Methodology

Ted emphasizes growth-oriented momentum trading, influenced by William O’Neal’s CAN SLIM system but with modifications.

CAN SLIM Acronym

  • C: Current earnings/revenue growth (targeting double to triple-digit growth)
  • A: Annual earnings and Return on Equity
  • N: New product, management, or unique business aspect
  • S: Supply and demand (price and volume analysis)
  • L: Leader stocks showing relative strength and base-building
  • I: Institutional ownership (accumulation)
  • M: Market direction (75% of stocks follow the general market)

Ted’s Adaptation: “Super Stock Criteria” or “Magic Elixir”

  • High liquidity and Average Daily Range (ADR) for smoother price action
  • Linear price movement (avoiding volatile roller coaster stocks)
  • Hot theme or catalyst (fundamentals optional for some trades, e.g., crypto)

Trading Universe

  • Sectors: Tech, healthcare, biotech, crypto, gold, silver
  • Focus: Primarily growth names
  • Crypto trades in late 2024 included Bitcoin, Ethereum, MicroStrategy (MSTR)
  • Entry approach: Avoid trading during extreme price extensions or chasing late breakouts; prefer pullbacks or after bases form

Risk Management & Position Sizing

Risk management is the most critical layer beyond technical analysis:

  • Use position sizing and progressive exposure: increase exposure when the strategy works, pull back when it doesn’t
  • Employ stop losses and trailing stops primarily at 21-day and 50-day moving averages
  • Trim positions into strength at ATR (Average True Range) extensions:
    • 3-4 ATR above 21 EMA
    • 8-10 ATR above 50-day SMA
  • Avoid revenge trading or increasing size after losses
  • Drawdowns typically capped below 15% in Growction, significantly lower than S&P 500 drawdowns (30-50%)

Market & Macro Views

  • Market cycles are driven by human psychology and supply-demand laws, which remain constant over time
  • Current market (as of Nov 2024) viewed as a bull market since early 2023 with signs of a healthy correction/pullback
  • AI bubble narrative approached with caution:
    • Strong hype but fundamental ROI yet to be proven
    • Bubbles can last longer than expected
    • Fed easing reduces risk of bubble bursting due to rate hikes
  • Uses moving averages (21, 50, 200-day) and market breadth indicators to assess market health and timing
  • Prefers trend following over mean reversion or scalping
  • Recognizes distinct phases for growing assets versus protecting capital, adjusting portfolios accordingly

Portfolio Construction & Client Management

  • Clients typically hold diversified allocations between Growction and Turboction based on age, risk tolerance, and goals
  • Average holding period: weeks to a few months; rarely long-term capital gains
  • Focus on intermediate-term swing trades with trend-following methodology
  • Managing clients’ money involves managing their emotions and expectations, not just executing trades
  • Daily team calls (morning and afternoon) cover market news, economic data, upgrades/downgrades, and trading ideas

Historical & Educational Foundations

Ted emphasizes learning from classic trading and investing literature:

  • How to Make Money in Stocks by William O’Neal (CAN SLIM)
  • Reminiscences of a Stock Operator by Jesse Livermore
  • Market Wizards by Jack Schwager
  • Stan Weinstein’s Stage Analysis
  • Books by Mark Minervini, Howard Marks, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett

Learning is layered:

  1. Technical analysis
  2. Risk management
  3. Market environment awareness

No shortcuts to mastery; requires 5-10 years of persistent learning, failure, and adaptation. Ted advocates building a personal brand and network (used social media DM outreach to land his asset management role) and forming or joining trading pods/communities for accountability and idea sharing.


Technical Tools & Processes

  • Technical indicators used:
    • 21 EMA, 50-day SMA, 200-day SMA for trend identification and exit signals
    • ATR for measuring price extensions and trimming positions
  • AI tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity help quickly summarize company fundamentals, news, and catalysts
  • Platforms: Market Surge and Trader Lion for sector and momentum scanning
  • Applies Stan Weinstein’s Stage Analysis to identify price cycle stages:
    • Stage 1: Base/basing phase (sideways)
    • Stage 2: Uptrend (ideal to buy)
    • Stage 3: Top/topping phase (avoid trading)
    • Stage 4: Downtrend (short or avoid)
  • Prefers simple, proven methods over chasing new or complex strategies

Psychological & Lifestyle Insights

  • Trading combines competition, strategy, and psychology, similar to sports and video games
  • Daily routines include meditation (12-15 mins), journaling, gratitude practice, inspired by stoic philosophy
  • Uses Atomic Habits by James Clear to build discipline and habit formation
  • Emphasizes self-awareness and emotional management as critical to trading success
  • Personal challenges (loss of father, health issues) impacted discipline but reinforced the importance of balance and mental health
  • Faith and belief in a bigger purpose help manage ego and stress

Performance & Drawdowns

  • Early success trading SPACs with asymmetric risk/reward, but suffered a 50-60% drawdown, leading to a hiatus and re-evaluation
  • Current portfolios aim for max drawdowns <15% vs. S&P 500 drawdowns of 30-50%
  • Avoiding large drawdowns is key to long-term compounding
  • Focus on consistent inputs and disciplined execution to enable reliable performance measurement and improvement

Explicit Recommendations & Cautions

  • Avoid chasing extended moves or late breakouts; wait for pullbacks and base formations
  • Never increase position size during losing streaks or emotional distress
  • Master one strategy rather than mixing multiple conflicting strategies
  • Use trailing stops and trim into strength to protect profits
  • Study history and timeless principles rather than chasing new trends blindly
  • Build a trading community or pod for support and shared learning
  • Trading mastery takes years; no shortcuts
  • Use technology and AI tools to enhance research efficiency
  • Manage client emotions actively when handling others’ money
  • Stay adaptable but disciplined; recognize when your edge is in or out of favor
  • Avoid mean reversion or bottom fishing during strong downtrends; trend following requires patience

Mentioned Tickers, Assets, Sectors & Instruments

  • SPACs: VTIQ (merged with Nikola), CCIV (Lucid), IPOA, IPOB, IPOC (Chimath’s alphabet SPACs)
  • Stocks: Nvidia (NVDA), SMCI, MSTR (MicroStrategy), NUVB, GH, Palantir, BE, Olo, LEU, SMR, RGTI, InoQ, Grail
  • Crypto: Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH)
  • ETFs: Inverse ETFs for shorting (due to restrictions on shorting individual stocks)
  • Indices: S&P 500, NASDAQ
  • Other sectors: Gold, Silver, Healthcare, Pharma, Biotech

Methodology / Framework Highlights

  • CAN SLIM (William O’Neal) for stock selection
  • Stan Weinstein’s Stage Analysis for market cycle and timing
  • Trend following using 21 EMA, 50 SMA, 200 SMA for entry/exit and trend confirmation
  • Risk management layers:
    • Position sizing
    • Stop losses
    • Trailing stops (21 EMA, 50 SMA)
    • Exposure scaling based on market conditions
  • Theme identification:
    • Top-down sector ETF analysis
    • Bottom-up stock and catalyst analysis
    • Use of AI tools for rapid fundamental and news analysis
    • Follow smart money and thought leaders for early theme signals
  • Trading pod formation:
    • Identify your trading style and goals
    • Use social media and communities to find aligned traders
    • Share ideas and hold each other accountable

Disclaimers & Disclosures

  • Ted Zhang is not a financial advisor; insights are based on personal experience
  • No guarantee that strategies will work 100% of the time
  • Emphasis on risk management to avoid large losses
  • Minimum investment thresholds apply for their managed portfolios
  • Past performance does not guarantee future results
  • Use of AI tools and social media is a personal choice; not financial advice

Presenters & Sources

  • Ted Zhang – Trader and co-portfolio manager at River Asset Management
  • Russ – Host of Words of Wisdom podcast

Mentioned Influences/Mentors:

  • William O’Neal (CAN SLIM author)
  • Stanley Weinstein (Stage Analysis)
  • Jack Schwager (Market Wizards)
  • Mark Minervini
  • Howard Marks, Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett
  • Stanley Druckenmiller (hedge fund legend)
  • Ray Dalio (meditation inspiration)
  • Trader Lion (Richard, Ross Haber)
  • Andrej Karpathy (AI expert referenced)

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