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PCPer Podcast 865: Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 Review Situation, Ryzen 7 5800X3D Comeback? HUDIMMs, and MORE!
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1) Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 review coverage + sampling situation (AM5 flagship “dual 3D V-Cache”)
- Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 is framed as an AM5 flagship with a “dual edition” approach, discussed at around $900 (per the hosts’ mention).
- Review sampling / availability
- One reviewer (notably Gamers Nexus) suggested they were blacklisted.
- The hosts counter by listing who did receive review units, emphasizing that several major outlets were missing—specifically calling out:
- No Gamers Nexus
- No Linus Tech Tips
- No TechPowerUp
- And that PC Perspective wasn’t briefed/sampled for advance information.
- Performance expectations from reviews
- Reviews described in the style of Fēronix / Level1Techs / Hot Hardware (Linux-heavy) emphasize strong non-gaming workloads, including:
- Video encoding
- Linux kernel compilation
- Gaming results are characterized as not meaningfully better than the non “X3D2” Ryzen 9 9950X3D:
- Similar gaming performance
- But higher power draw
- Reviews described in the style of Fēronix / Level1Techs / Hot Hardware (Linux-heavy) emphasize strong non-gaming workloads, including:
- Power / efficiency
- Discussion suggests expected behavior around ~250W, contrasted with a stated 200W TDP, implying higher real-world power under load.
- Other outlet comparisons
- Testing compared to outlets like KitGuru / Guru3D / Hilbert is described as showing:
- Higher cost
- Much more power
- No real gaming gains
- A Threadripper comparison is mentioned as going poorly (described as a large slowdown / awkward benchmark outcome).
- Testing compared to outlets like KitGuru / Guru3D / Hilbert is described as showing:
- Why it may not excel in games
- The hosts speculate that using two 3D V-Cache CCDs introduces extra latency, reducing gaming benefit.
- Overall sentiment: this CPU is workstation / multi-thread / compute oriented, not a pure gaming upgrade.
- The value proposition is criticized (roughly: near twice the cost, more power, no better games), though the hosts still acknowledge the engineering achievement of stacking two V-Cache elements.
2) Alienware/Area-51 prebuilt featuring the 9950X3D2
- Alienware is mentioned as being first-to-market with the Ryzen 9 9950X3D2 in a Dell/Alienware Area-51 configuration.
- Price cited: ~$7,049
- Notable included specs:
- RTX 5090
- 64GB DDR5-6400
- 4TB Gen5 NVMe
- 1500W 80+ Platinum PSU
- 360mm AIO
- The hosts express skepticism about case airflow design, referencing concerns about previous airflow plans.
3) AM4 “comeback”: Ryzen 7 5800X3D (10th anniversary / DDR5 resistance)
- AMD is discussed as potentially reintroducing the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, with the reasoning framed as:
- “Save the world from DDR5”
- Pricing pressure and platform maturity
- Pricing mentioned: $449 MSRP (with an SCP-like reference), but the used market is said to often be over $500.
- The angle: bring it back so gamers can avoid expensive AM5 + DDR5 costs.
4) Retro GPU/CPU market mentions: RTX 3060 12GB returning + follow-up idea
- The GeForce RTX 3060 12GB (specifically a variant) is said to be returning around June.
- Supply/production constraints discussed:
- The 3060 12GB reportedly uses a different process (e.g., Samsung 8nm-ish vs other nodes), affecting which SKUs are economical to manufacture.
- The hosts mention they have an older review sample and consider a follow-up test to see how it “ages” now that it can be bought new again.
5) Memory/BIOS/marketing caution: “HUDIMMs” bandwidth loss claim
- A claim attributed to videocards.com (via subtitles) says an ASUS BIOS / DDR5 HUDIMM simulation shows nearly ~50% bandwidth loss.
- The hosts interpret it as a scenario where the platform effectively reduces memory channels/sub-channels, such as:
- One 32-bit channel instead of two
- Potentially to target specific “sellable” capacities
- Takeaway: capacity/pricing tricks may reduce real bandwidth, and consumers should be wary of misleading configurations.
6) Licensing/codecs: Windows laptop hardware decode removed for HEVC/H.265
- Rising ATVC codec licensing costs are described as a key factor.
- Alleged result: OEMs (e.g., Dell/HP) remove hardware decode support, pushing Windows devices toward software-based alternatives that rely on store licenses.
- The hosts say this affects more than laptops, including:
- Home media workflows and NAS setups (example mentioned: Synology “native H.265” being affected)
- Broader complaint: these licensing structures are framed as “patent troll” behavior, causing confusing consumer limitations.
7) Networking: IPv6 reaches parity; IPv4 stress relief; odd production issues
- IPv6 is described as reaching near parity (~50% of traffic) after 28 years, relieving IPv4 address stress.
- NAT is discussed as a survival strategy for IPv4 in the past:
- Network Address Translation (NAT) helped keep IPv4 workable
- A controversial anecdote:
- Some Microsoft / cloud / enterprise setups purportedly show timeouts / pages failing until IPv6 is disabled, after which everything “just works.”
8) Security corner (two major supply-chain stories)
1) npm self-propagating worm
- Malware injected into malicious low-level npm packages.
- Goals include stealing developer credentials, such as:
- Git credentials
- SSH keys
- Shell history
- Database passwords
- Cloud session data (Azure/GCP/AWS)
- Critical detail: it is described as self-propagating:
- It finds active credentials during builds
- It replicates malicious payloads to other packages using those credentials, potentially spreading through other developers’ builds.
2) Mirai botnet targets discontinued D-Link routers
- A botnet is said to actively exploit orphaned/discontinued D-Link models.
- Example mentioned: DIR-823X series (as the router type to replace / “bin”).
- The hosts also claim other brands (e.g., TP-Link and ZTE) could be vulnerable due to similar hardware/firmware board design patterns.
- Guidance: replace with supported hardware; “throw them away” sentiment.
9) Gaming quick hits
- Expanse / Arkane?: Closed beta impressions for a sci-fi RPG/shooter described as Mass Effect-like, but with bland acting; the hosts suggest the early beta could improve.
- Nebulous: Sci-fi strategy sim with a single-player campaign, featuring:
- Newtonian physics
- Unforgiving gameplay
- Missile plotting
- Importance of point defense
- Pausing to issue orders
- Complex ship systems / damage control
- Communication constraints between ships
- Windows 11 “Xbox mode” (insider preview):
- Intended for living-room/controller-first PC use
- Hosts worry it may encourage controller-first changes that could harm keyboard/mouse ergonomics
- Valve/Linux VRAM fix:
- A Valve-related change is described as nearly tripling frame rates on 4GB GPUs (example: Radeon RX 6500 XT)
- Core concept: VRAM memory compression enabling smaller VRAM cards to remain usable
10) “Picks of the week” (shopping/price-focused)
- Pick 1 (Josh): AMD GPU + Dell refurb display discount deals.
- Pick 2 (Jeremy/Kent/Brett—varies):
- Deals include:
- A 34” 144Hz 3440x1440 refurbished Dell ultrawide (~$289.99)
- A prebuilt around $2,299.99 with:
- Ryzen 9800X3D
- 32GB RAM
- RTX 5070 Ti
- 2TB NVMe
- Framed as solid “strip-and-parts” value logic
- Deals include:
- Update/second-order pick: A furniture item (TV stand/shelf) described as a build quality disappointment, citing:
- Tool-less assembly
- Insufficient friction
- Wobble/tipping concerns
Main speakers/sources (as stated in the subtitles)
- Sebastian Peak
- Jeremy Holstrom and Lucid
- Josh Walworth
- Brett Van Stroberg
- Kent Burgess
External sources referenced repeatedly:
- Gamers Nexus
- VideoCardz / videocards.com
- Tom’s Hardware
- Rock Paper Shotgun (RPS)
- Valve (for the Linux VRAM fix)
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