Summary of "Jeffrey Gundlach's Just Markets: Clue"
Summary of Jeffrey Gundlach’s “Just Markets: Clue” Webcast (Early 2026)
Market Performance & Asset Classes (2025 Review)
Equities
- S&P 500 up approximately 18%
- NASDAQ up approximately 21%
- Non-US stocks outperformed US stocks for dollar-based investors:
- Europe & UK stocks up ~35% (including currency translation benefits)
- Emerging markets stocks up ~34%, with a positive stance initiated mid-2024
- US equity valuations are very high (S&P median forward P/E at ~95th percentile historically)
- Small caps are less overvalued than large caps
- S&P 500 cap-weighted index has strongly outperformed the equal-weighted index since 2023, though a recent minor reversal was noted
- Growth stocks have outperformed value stocks significantly since 2007, with a recent slight reversal
Fixed Income
- Bonds performed well overall in 2025:
- Emerging market sovereign bonds up 13% (strong recommendation mid-year)
- High yield bonds and mortgage-backed securities had similar returns despite different credit risk profiles
- 2-year Treasuries returned 5%, with mid-single-digit returns for most bond categories
- Leveraged loans had low returns due to floating rates and Federal Reserve rate cuts totaling 175 basis points between September 2024 and December 2025
- Long-term Treasuries (30-year) performed poorly:
- 3.3% return, less than cash
- Price drawdown still near 50% from the 2020 peak, with no relief yet
- Yield curve steepener strategy (focusing on 7-year and 2-year Treasuries) was one of the best fixed income strategies in 2025
- The 2s-30s Treasury spread is currently around 130 basis points; Gundlach targets 150 basis points to reconsider steepener trades
Currencies
- US dollar declined in 2025
- Euro rose 13%
- Japanese yen remained flat
- Emerging market currencies increased by 8.8%
Commodities
- Bloomberg Commodity Index up 16%, nearly matching S&P 500 returns
- Gold surged 64%, copper up 41%
- Energy sector was weak: WTI oil down 15%, Brent down 18.5%
- Copper-gold ratio as an indicator for 10-year Treasury yields is no longer reliable since 2020, reflecting the end of the secular falling interest rate trend
Cryptocurrency
- Bitcoin declined approximately 6% in 2025
- Gold has outperformed Bitcoin over the past 4 years and outperformed the S&P 500 over the past 25 years
Valuations & Yield Curves
- US equity valuations remain at historical highs (forward P/E near the 95th percentile)
- Non-US bonds and some fixed income sectors (e.g., Commercial Mortgage-Backed Securities - CMBS) appear more reasonably valued
- Developed market central bank policy rates have become highly synchronized post-2020, except for the Bank of Japan, which has been slower and less aggressive in raising rates
- US Treasury issuance has accelerated since 2020, especially Treasuries, contributing to long-term interest rate pressure
- Long-term Treasury yields (30-year) have broken above their historical channel since 2020, signaling a structural trend toward higher yields
- Shorter maturities (2-year, 5-year) yields have not fallen despite Fed cutting 175 basis points, indicating market skepticism about the effectiveness of rate cuts
- Treasury yield curve steepener (2s vs 30s) remains a key trade idea but requires caution
Macroeconomic Context & Risks
- US federal deficit remains elevated at approximately $2 trillion annually (2021–2024), with rising deficits in 2023 and 2024 despite no large stimulus checks
- Allegations of large-scale fraud and waste in federal spending programs:
- Estimated $600 billion+ potentially wasted or fraudulent out of a ~$7 trillion federal budget (over 10%)
- Examples include:
- $24 billion missing in California homelessness programs
- Massive cost overruns in California high-speed rail (spent $30 billion vs original $6–8 billion estimate, now downsized with a $120+ billion budget)
- PPP loans: $796.8 billion issued, 92–96% forgiven, with suspicion of fraudulent forgiveness
- Other fraud examples in Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment claims, and green energy projects
- Circular financing scheme described:
- Federal funds allocated to states → distributed to groups with minimal oversight → fraud and waste → political donations to politicians → continued federal spending on the same programs → perpetuates the cycle
- Rising US debt-to-GDP ratio correlates with steepening 2s-30s Treasury spread, reflecting investor concerns about long-term inflation and debt sustainability
- Global trend of rising long-term interest rates tied to fiscal concerns and inflationary policies
Investment Recommendations & Portfolio Construction (2026 Outlook)
- Favor metals and commodities broadly, especially gold and real assets (land, high-value stores of value)
- Prefer non-US stocks over US stocks, especially in local currencies to benefit from currency translation gains
- Avoid US stocks for aggressive investors due to high valuations and expected underperformance
- Bond allocation should focus on relatively high-quality fixed income (avoid CCC and riskier debt), with an emphasis on ~7-year duration
- Maintain a significant cash allocation (~20–25%) to capitalize on better entry points in risky assets during 2026
- Suggested portfolio allocation:
- ~20% real assets
- ~30% stocks (non-US, local currency)
- ~25–30% bonds (high quality, 7-year duration)
- ~20–25% cash
- Avoid private credit due to rapid growth, deteriorating underwriting standards, and rising risks highlighted by recent negative headlines (e.g., firms swapping debt for equity in stressed deals, insurance industry entanglement, Moody’s warnings)
- Treasury steepener trade remains valid but less enthusiastic than two years ago; monitor the 2s-30s spread for entry and exit signals
Key Numbers & Metrics
- S&P 500 2025 return: ~18%
- NASDAQ 2025 return: ~21%
- Europe/UK stocks (dollar-based): +35%
- Emerging markets stocks: +34%
- Emerging market sovereign bonds: +13%
- 2-year Treasury return: +5%
- Gold price:
- Broke above $2,000 in early 2024
- Reached approximately $4,600 in early 2026
- Fed funds cuts: 175 basis points between September 2024 and December 2025
- US federal deficit: approximately $2 trillion annually (2021–2024)
- Private credit assets under management (AUM): approximately $2 trillion
- MSCI USA price-to-book ratio: 5.6 vs MSCI ex-USA: 2.26
- PPP loans forgiven: 92–96% of ~$796.8 billion issued
Disclosures & Notes
Gundlach’s views reflect his analysis and are not formal financial advice. He emphasizes the need for caution and awareness of fraud and systemic risks in US fiscal policy. Recommends listening to Neil Howe’s podcast on “The Fourth Turning” for a macro perspective on inflation and financial crisis cycles.
Presenters / Sources
- Jeffrey Gundlach, CEO of DoubleLine Capital
- References to podcasts with Neil Howe and Julia Lar Ro
- Cited news reports and data from Bloomberg, JP Morgan, Moody’s, and other financial sources
Overall, Gundlach signals a cautious and strategic approach for 2026, favoring real assets, non-US equities, high-quality bonds, and cash, while warning against private credit and US equities due to valuation and systemic fiscal risks. The macro backdrop includes persistent deficits, rising long-term rates, and widespread fraud concerns impacting confidence in US financial markets.
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