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Classic Plus Will Be AMAZING & Here's Why!

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Storyline / Theme (what “Classic Plus” is expected to be)

  • No specific new narrative plot was detailed.
  • Instead, the discussion frames Classic Plus as a new “forever home” style project built on WoW patch 1.6.
  • The goal is for it to feel like a brand-new game, not just a reskin of existing Classic/Seasonal systems.
  • The creator hopes it will deliver discovery and surprise, similar to the early days of Season of Discovery, but without relying too heavily on what already exists from Vanilla or earlier seasonal iterations.

Gameplay highlights / major topics discussed

1) Leveling should feel different (1–60)

Key expectations

  • Strong preference for a different leveling journey from 1 to 60, including:
    • New zones
    • More quests
    • Some new dungeons

Main concern

  • If the route is too close to existing leveling paths, players will optimize quickly using:
    • guides
    • add-ons
  • That would reduce the novelty and eliminate the “fresh” feeling.

Commentary on past seasons

  • Even though Season of Discovery introduced differences, the 1–25 route remained close enough to Classic that it could be followed efficiently via guides/add-ons.

Add-on/guide implications

  • Early Classic Plus add-ons and leveling guides may not work well at launch.
  • The community will likely need time to map and validate new routes.

2) No/limited public testing (avoid PTR/beta spoilers)

The speaker strongly prefers:

  • No public testing / no PTR
  • If a beta exists, it should be minimal and secret

Rationale

  • Community discovery should happen together on launch day.
  • They argue this should not be pre-solved via:
    • data mining
    • PTR testing
    • Wowhead posts
    • YouTube guides

Additional point

  • Even without PTR/beta, guides will still appear (e.g., from Wowhead and other content creators).
  • The best experience is described as losing less mystery before launch.

3) Content pacing and “gated” progression (level caps)

The speaker proposes—supported by polling—content gating similar to Season of Discovery.

Example pacing

  • Level caps at 25 → 40 → 50 (or comparable stages)

Why gating matters

  • Prevents players from consuming all relevant content immediately and dropping off.
  • Enables phased addition of new dungeons/raids over time.

Success factor

  • They point out that Season of Discovery’s advantage was time to explore professions/rooms/raids early on, followed by later catch-up—rather than a single rushed “full release” path.

4) PvP events and missing/additional features

Open-world PvP events (Ashenvale-style)

  • The creator liked the phase 1 open-world PvP event concept (Ashenvale) because it supported:
    • group/raid-scale participation
    • reputation and rewards tied to the event
  • Criticism:
    • Reusing similar events later (e.g., “Blood Moon” reuse) felt underwhelming.
    • They felt rewards/interest didn’t refresh enough.
    • Later phases became disappointing due to reused event design plus broader content issues.

Arenas

  • They hope Classic Plus includes:
    • arenas
    • ranked PvP
    • arena points and exchangeable items
  • Argument:
    • Arenas show player skill more directly than Classic-style PvP grinds (like rank 14).
  • They want PvP gear obtainable through PvP progression without becoming overly PvE-like.

5) World buffs: likely removal or rework

How it worked in Season of Discovery

  • Weekly item → turn in for a one-time buff
  • Buff provides damage/healing bonuses for 2 hours
  • Additional city/in-faction buffs from quest chains

Speaker’s view

  • World buffs can be cool, but become annoying/mandatory due to preparation time.

Poll outcome referenced

  • 76% want world buffs removed (24% opposed)

Discussion prompts

  • Should world buffs be removed entirely?
  • Should they be disabled inside raids?

6) Economy concerns (inflation, bots, gold buying, consumable costs)

Main points

  • Early Season of Discovery economy:
    • quickly became expensive due to inflation and gold generation
    • items near level 25 could become extremely costly
  • Potential causes discussed:
    • farming dynamics (including indirect blame on “bots everywhere” driving material prices up)
    • overabundant income sources feeding the auction house and raising prices

Gold buying / botting

  • Even if restricted or banned, the speaker expects it to remain a major issue unless Blizzard:
    • increases enforcement
    • improves economy tuning

Raid cost pain

  • Weekly raiding at level 60 is estimated at ~100 to 500 gold per week (depending on consumables/materials)

Poll outcome referenced

  • Over 25% voted “yes” when asked whether gold buying is occurring (suggesting similar or worse risk in Classic Plus)

7) Expectations for new dungeons/raids (avoid reusing too much)

They argue Classic Plus should include:

  • many new dungeons
  • potentially a couple new raids
  • ideally some new zones

Criticism of Season of Discovery’s approach

  • Lack of genuinely new leveling dungeons between 1–60 reduced excitement.
  • Old dungeons converted into raids weren’t as interesting this time.

Level-up raid concerns

  • They strongly hope for no level-up raids.
  • If they exist:
    • don’t grant power-leveling loot that causes heavy power creep
    • they cite BFD phase 1 loot being “level 60-ish” in power at level 25

Proposed leveling-dungeon idea (example strategy/design)

  • A 10-man leveling dungeon concept inspired by:
    • “Upper Blackrock Spire”-style content
    • Turtle WoW’s Dragon Retreat, adapted into a 10-man leveling dungeon
  • Priorities:
    • quest hooks
    • fun over massive loot
    • intentionally weaker/low-power trinkets for leveling value (not endgame BIS)
  • Goal:
    • make leveling feel like an adventure, not a straight rush

8) Class system / runes / spells

  • They say the rune system wasn’t bad in Season of Discovery, but needs adjustment:
    • more new spells
    • not just spell equivalents from later expansions
  • They want additions that are truly distinct, not familiar Cataclysm/Wrath-era concepts “reskinned.”

Strategies / key tips mentioned

No explicit step-by-step “how to” guides were provided, but the discussion implies player and design behavior:

  • Don’t rush level 60 immediately (at least not for the experience); focus on questing/exploration early.
  • Expect most leveling add-ons/guides may fail or be unreliable at launch—so prioritize questing first and adapt as needed.
  • If world buffs are changed/removed:
    • participate based on the final system
    • be ready to adjust preparation routines

Poll results referenced (for context)

  • % wanting different leveling path (1–60): ~50%
  • % wanting no public beta/PTR / discover together: preference stated strongly; one poll figure referenced as 19% wanting secrecy/data mining (the rest implied to disagree)
  • % wanting content gating like Season of Discovery: 59% yes
  • % voting world buffs removed: 76% yes
  • % losing interest if too similar to Season of Discovery/Vanilla: 36%
  • % supporting content gating/remaining casual-friendly approach: 59% yes

Featured gamers / sources (mentioned at the end of the video content)

  • Guide MMO (creator of the video being discussed)
  • Fake QT (mentioned as a Classic WoW figure, formerly known for Black Lotus farming under the name “Fake QT”)
  • Wowhead (source for guides/info if PTR/beta leaks happen)
  • Method (named as another group that would produce guides if needed)
  • Armpie (mentioned as possibly associated with watching/doing mage boosting in Wailing Caverns; the speaker says “I believe quote me if I’m wrong”)
  • Turtle WoW (referenced as inspiration for the “Dragon Retreat”-style dungeon idea)

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