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Dear HSR Sheetmakers
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Overview
The speaker attacks “spreadsheet makers” (character theory-crafters using calculators/sheets) as largely unreliable and misleading. They argue these creators prioritize appearances and clout over true accuracy and thorough testing.
Main Targets and Claims
- A specific spreadsheet/battle-sim developer is singled out after the speaker encounters a repository described as “backed up by a battle sim.”
- The speaker claims that within minutes they found multiple issues and stopped checking further because the results felt inherently untrustworthy.
- The developer is accused of agenda posting, including:
- promoting/valuing leaked or beta characters,
- using math to influence players’ investment decisions, such as:
- “what Eidolons are worth”
- what teammates are best.
Core Technical Argument: Sim/Calcs Don’t Match the Game
The speaker argues the spreadsheet maker does not properly align its damage outputs with actual in-game behavior—specifically for Herta-style calculations around an “Eva” character’s ultimate (referred to as Eva’s ultimate / Evanesce calcs).
- When asked whether the damage numbers match the game, the creator allegedly replies that they couldn’t fully verify due to sim bugs and limited access/time.
- The speaker claims the creator treats “accuracy” as secondary to producing calcs quickly.
Why the Speaker Says the Ultimate Calcs Are “Glaringly Wrong”
The speaker provides two major alleged mistakes:
1) Failure to account for “hit splits” affecting energy (and thus Eva’s bonus damage proc)
- Many attacks apply damage in multiple hit portions (“hit splits”).
- These hit splits can distribute not only damage but also:
- toughness breaking
- energy gains
- The speaker’s claim is that Eva’s kit gains a key resource (“certified banger”) from energy gain, and that energy gained from an initial AoE hit should increase later Elation/bounce damage in the ultimate.
- They allege the spreadsheet applies the energy-derived bonus too late—after the Elation damage—so:
- the Elation and bounce portions are miscalculated.
2) Improper aggregation of bounce/toughness break instances
- The speaker claims the spreadsheet:
- combines bounce damage into a single damage instance, and
- mishandles toughness break handling.
- They argue this breaks interactions with:
- weakness broken / break / super-break mechanics,
- invalidating the results.
Broader Critique: “Close Enough” Isn’t Acceptable
- The speaker argues that even if minor discrepancies could be excused, the number of inaccuracies is too large.
- They contrast these spreadsheets unfavorably with their own approach:
- building/using an optimizer
- building a comprehensive battle simulator
- They emphasize they are not trying to dictate what players should pull or what Eidolons to invest in.
Accusations About Incentives and Accountability
- The speaker claims spreadsheet creators include warnings such as:
- “may not be accurate”
- “don’t compare across sheets”
- They argue these disclaimers help creators avoid accountability.
- They further claim many spreadsheets remain unverified, and may be updated using leaks rather than rigorous testing.
Final Conceptual Argument: Local vs. Global Optimization
- The speaker says spreadsheets typically do local comparisons, such as:
- choosing the best light cone within one fixed team.
- They contrast this with global optimization, where an optimizer searches across:
- all combinations of items and team setups.
- The speaker argues spreadsheets therefore miss important synergies and better options that only emerge when evaluating full team/item interactions—unlike an optimizer that tests many possibilities.
Conclusion / Call to Action
- The speaker’s “moral” is to treat spreadsheet makers as frauds (their wording).
- They urge viewers to:
- demand real testing,
- stop treating these sheets as “word of law.”
- The speaker also criticizes other creators (including one named “Globa”) for allegedly:
- providing vague context,
- maintaining comparison-avoidance warnings.
Presenters / Contributors
- Vaush (primary speaker)
- An additional participant whose name isn’t given in the subtitles
- They DM/correspond and later join the discussion (“someone else pitched in”)
- “Globa” (mentioned as another spreadsheet/video creator; not shown speaking in the subtitles)