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Policy: from hybrid to cloud-native - Unpacking Endpoint Management
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Overview: “Hybrid to cloud-native” endpoint management (Intune-focused)
The session discusses how to transition from on-premises endpoint management (e.g., SEC/Configuration Manager + GPO/AD) to cloud-native endpoint management using Microsoft Intune and cloud identity (Entra ID).
Speakers emphasize that this transition is not only technical—it requires process change and a mindset shift to avoid drift/conflicts and to establish a single source of authority.
Key technological concepts and product features
1) Why Intune/MDM became necessary (cloud policy delivery)
- MDM / Modern Device Management originated to manage devices without needing domain controller line-of-sight, moving policy and app delivery “out onto the internet.”
- The approach evolves toward cloud-native management, where devices pull down policy and apps via cloud services rather than relying primarily on traditional domain-based connectivity.
2) Common real-world end state during migration: hybrid everywhere
Many organizations end up in mixed configurations:
- Some devices fully migrated to MDM
- Some devices running hybrid (cloud + on-prem)
- Temporary periods where the same device runs GPO + MDM policy concurrently
3) “Cloud native tools” for patching: EAM (Enterprise App Management)
For third-party application patching without local packaging servers, the discussion points to:
- Intune Enterprise App Management (EAM), including:
- Support for first-party and third-party apps
- Reduced packaging effort compared to manual Win32 wrapper work (e.g., learning silent install commands, properties, answer files)
- Auto-update as a key capability
4) Reducing and mapping legacy GPO complexity to Intune: Settings Catalog + GP Analytics + Security Copilot policy experience
Biggest scaling problem: organizations often accumulate hundreds or thousands of GPOs over many years.
Guidance focuses on starting from a desired outcomes / “blank piece of paper” mindset rather than trying to rationalize everything immediately.
Tools/features mentioned:
- Group Policy Analytics
- Helps identify which legacy GPO settings map into Intune settings catalog
- Guidance: prune before/after upload and select only settings that still make sense
- Security Copilot policy experience (AI-based)
- Accepts either:
- a compliance document/email/blog, or
- a prompt describing an intent/specific scenario
- Then maps intent to relevant settings catalog policies, aiming to remove manual research/mapping work
- Accepts either:
5) Admin Templates deprecation and Settings Catalog direction
A Q&A clarifies:
- Admin Templates are deprecated because their functionality is available in Settings Catalog.
- Settings Catalog is more flexible (e.g., filters) and supports a more modern policy creation workflow.
When to still use templates/custom ADMX/custom URI:
- Custom URI is described as the primary remaining niche:
- e.g., when a setting isn’t available, or is intentionally not exposed
- If something is missing/complex, Intune may create a custom first-class UX that uses underlying Windows CSPs
- Example alluded to: an Intune recovery scenario
- Some CSPs may intentionally not be exposed because they can impact delicate device/service behavior
- e.g., certificate renewal schedules, DM client CSP/join mechanics
6) Handling registry-backed settings vs GPO registry preferences
The discussion distinguishes between:
- Registry settings managed via Intune/CSP and handled by the policy manager
- GPO approaches that write registry keys directly (historically more prone to flip-flop, detection issues, and drift)
Guidance:
- Prefer built-in / settings catalog approaches where possible.
- Registry mapping is documented (e.g., ADMX files show which registry behavior corresponds to policy settings).
7) Replicating GP granularity (WMI filters, security group scoping)
Intune equivalents to WMI filters + GPO targeting:
- Assignment filters in Intune
- Security group targeting
Also noted:
- Many CSP-backed settings use applicability logic, meaning the device may silently not apply settings when not applicable.
- This can reduce the need for very granular targeting that WMI filters historically provided.
8) Visibility after switching to cloud policies (replacing GPResult/RSOP)
To confirm policy delivery and “what landed on devices,” speakers recommend:
- Intune reporting
- Intune Explorer for detailed slicing/dicing reporting by device/settings
- Device diagnostics/logs for troubleshooting (noted as potentially noisy)
- Community tooling: SyncML Viewer to inspect the SyncML payload delivered from Intune to the device
9) Compliance signal and “multiple MDMs” on devices (platform limitation / single authority)
Key clarification:
- Devices generally require single source of authority for compliance.
- The platform limitation: you can have multiple MDMs, but single authoritative compliance is required for conditional access.
Specific warning:
- If Defender for Endpoint (MDE) configurations are applied via Intune, compliance may overwrite/compete with another provider (example: JAMF).
- Therefore, orgs must ensure they have the correct compliance authority model.
Migration strategy advice (the “how long/how to” part)
The recommended hybrid-to-cloud-native progression (“3 steps”)
Speakers recommend a multi-year, staged plan rather than a single switch:
- Enroll existing devices into hybrid and co-management
- Allows cloud management to start while legacy still exists.
- Move workloads to the cloud
- Treat policy as a workload too: shift from AD/GPO context toward Intune policy.
- After workloads move, GPO on older devices can become unnecessary.
- Deploy new devices as cloud-native
- “Intune only / Entra only entry-only”
- Hybrid legacy is removed gradually as hardware refresh cycles complete.
Timing guidance: the period of hybrid GPO + Intune depends on hardware refresh cycles (e.g., 3–5 years).
“Blank piece of paper” = how to migrate/retire safely
Instead of migrating everything:
- Define outcomes: secure + productive device
- Layer policy based on what’s actually required:
- security/cyber
- productivity
- Retire old policies rather than carrying forward “sludge” from decades of accumulation.
Example mindset:
- Treat “prune/retire” decisions like disabling floppy drives as a security-centric intent that may no longer be relevant today.
Common mistakes to avoid
- Skipping straight to the end / expecting resetless conversion
- Even after cloud management is in place, you must still rationalize:
- policy equivalents,
- app migrations,
- update rings / autopatching design,
- and process changes.
- Even after cloud management is in place, you must still rationalize:
- Conflating different kinds of “hybrid”
- Some orgs assume cloud-native can’t coexist with on-prem resources (printers/fileshares/etc.).
- Speakers argue cloud-native devices can still operate in hybrid office scenarios; connectivity translation (e.g., Entra Kerberos support) can address many cases.
- Bundling value changes with authority changes
- Don’t change both:
- “what value is set” (GP → Intune content), and
- “who applies it”
- Otherwise you may introduce interim drift/conflicts.
- Don’t change both:
- Configuration drift control
- Mentions Configuration Refresh to replay the last Intune payload when drift is suspected (e.g., refresh interval reduced to ~30 minutes).
Speaker / source identification
- Michelle Blanchard — Microsoft, Product Manager; hosts “Unpacking Endpoint Management”
- Danny Gillery — Product Manager, Intune space; co-host
- Rob York — PM Architect on the Intune team; desktop focus; cloud-native transition from Configuration Manager to Intune
- Mike Dano / “Dano” (Mike Dowski in subtitles) — PM on Intune policy space; previously owned endpoint management policy; discusses migration from on-prem to MDM and policy tooling including Security Copilot/settings catalog themes
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