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47 AMD B850 Motherboards Tested - Nearly Every Board!
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Product reviewed
This video is a large roundup/testing of 47 motherboards based on the AMD B850 chipset (ATX, microATX, and mini-ITX variants, including Wi‑Fi and non‑Wi‑Fi models). It focuses heavily on VRM/thermals under CPU stress using an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X (170W).
Key features mentioned across boards
- Chipset/target use: AM5 platform B850 boards tested for capability with current and “future” AMD CPUs.
- VRM focus: The main technical emphasis is whether boards can sustain load without overheating/throttling.
- Connectivity variations (typical highlights by brand/models):
- Many boards include combinations of:
- Wi‑Fi 6E or Wi‑Fi 7
- 2.5GbE or 5GbE LAN
- Multiple M.2 slots (some with PCIe 5.0)
- Mixed USB counts, often highlighting number of USB 3.2 and USB 2.0, plus Type‑C
- Higher-end/unusual models add extras like USB4 or dual 10GbE (on a top-tier B850).
- Many boards include combinations of:
Testing / user experience results (most important content)
Stress-test method
- Case: Antec Flux Pro
- Temperature measurement: Digital thermometer with K-type thermocouples, reporting peak PCB temperature
- Stress workload: Cinebench 2024 looped for 1 hour using Ryzen 9 9950X
- Thermals are the deciding factor: Boards are considered “good” if they don’t throttle and keep VRM temps under control.
Overall thermals outcome
- “Vast majority” passed the 1-hour VRM thermal criteria.
- Many boards stayed under 80°C, with some between 80–90°C.
- A handful failed due to power limits and/or VRM thermal issues.
Worst / avoid-list (named)
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Sapphire Pulse B850M Wi‑Fi
- Hard 150W limit (cannot remove)
- Concern: despite listing support for higher-watt CPUs, it can’t deliver full stock performance
- Peak temp around 70°C (cool, but limited)
- Recommendation: Avoid due to the locked limit; better budget alternatives exist.
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MSI Pro B850 MP Wi‑Fi
- 140W limit (removable)
- When unrestricted: VRM temps skyrocket >120°C with the 9950X
- Uses discrete MOSFETs described as struggling under load
- Recommendation: Avoid
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Gigabyte B850M DS3H
- Hard 170W limit
- Criticism: marketing claims of consistent high performance feel “rich” because the hard limit constrains results
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ASRock entry-level boards (B850 MA / B850 MX)
- 160W hard limit
- Fine for ≤120W CPUs, but not ideal if targeting the top-end wattage behavior
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Some ASUS boards at $150–$180 range
- Not described as power-limited, but still criticized for poor thermals:
- ASUS B850 Max Gaming Wi‑Fi
- ASUS Prime B850 Plus Wi‑Fi
- ASUS Prime B850 MK
- Peak temps over 100°C due to “cheap discrete MOSFETs”
- Not described as power-limited, but still criticized for poor thermals:
Best / top performer (named)
- Gigabyte B850 AI Top
- Peak VRM/PCB temp about 52°C
- Described as the winner of thermal testing (not a “big” win because most boards pass, but it’s the best)
Performance comparison highlights
- After thermal testing, there’s also a 10-minute loop test immediately after.
- Result summary:
- Boards that technically “passed” (orange) did so but ran excessively hot, so they were considered less competitive
- For the “good” boards: ~5% performance variation between fastest and slowest
- Run-to-run variance is also a few %, implying real-world differences are small when boards thermally behave well.
- Conditional note:
- With 120W or lower processors, all tested boards enabled the same performance level (power-limit issues mainly matter for higher-watt parts like the 9950X scenario).
Brand/model-specific value recommendations (best-of lists)
Best value overall
- ASRock B850M Pro RS
- Price mentioned: ~$130 (US)
- Claimed to work well even with the 9950X
- Caveat: tied to the broader ASRock AM5 issue note (see Major concerns / caveats).
Next best value options
- Gigabyte B850M Orus Elite Wi‑Fi 6E ICE (around $165–$190 (US))
- MSI Pro B850M A Wi‑Fi (around $170 (US)), with upgrades like Wi‑Fi 7 / 5GbE / more USB
Best ATX around ~$200
- MSI Tomahawk Max Wi‑Fi
- More impressive than MSI Pro B850-P Wi‑Fi
- Better VRM layout (described as on 8-layer PCB instead of 6-layer), plus extra M.2/USB improvements
Best microATX around ~$200
- Picks depend on price, with highlights:
- ASRock B850M Steel Legend Wi‑Fi (sometimes $140–$180 (US))
- Gigabyte B850M Orus Elite Wi‑Fi 6E ICE (noted for white builds)
- MSI B850M Motor Wi‑Fi criticized as “too expensive for what it is,” despite features (5GbE, more USB, Wi‑Fi 7, PCIe 5.0 M.2)
Best mini-ITX
- Decision is pricing-dependent, and at the time:
- ASRock B850i Lightning Wi‑Fi at $200 (US) highlighted as “unbeatable” value
- Compared vs:
- MSI MPG B850i Edge TI Wi‑Fi: includes 5GbE, typically cheaper than ASUS
- Gigabyte B850i Orus Pro
- ASUS ROG Strix B850i Gaming Wi‑Fi: more expensive; no major advantage over MSI per the video’s view
- LAN summary:
- ASRock is mentioned with Wi‑Fi 6E
- Most others use Wi‑Fi 7
- Only MSI is called out as having 5GbE; others use 2.5GbE
“Crazy” high-end (B850 where X870 becomes an option)
- Gigabyte B850 AI Top praised as the best extreme B850 because it includes unusual features like dual 10GbE (video claims X870 doesn’t typically offer this combo)
- Critique: once near ~$300, X870 boards become attractive due to features like USB4
- Mentioned alternative:
- ASRock X870 Taichi Creator at about $320 (US)
- 10GbE present, but second port limited to 5GbE
- Adds extra M.2 slot and two USB 4 ports
- ASRock X870 Taichi Creator at about $320 (US)
Major concerns / caveats
ASRock X3D-related issues (critical recommendation caveat)
- The host flags an ongoing concern about ASRock AM5 motherboards potentially “killing” X3D CPUs (and possibly other CPUs too).
- Recommendation based on this:
- Only recommend ASRock boards if you’re sure you’ll never use an X3D CPU.
- Note: The ASRock B850 range is still described as strong value, but the situation is framed as a “real big mess.”
Pros (as expressed in the video)
- Most B850 boards perform well thermally under heavy load and don’t meaningfully differ in performance (beyond small %).
- A wide set of options exist across price tiers and form factors.
- Standouts include:
- Gigabyte B850 AI Top for best thermals
- ASRock B850M Pro RS for value (with the ASRock/X3D caveat)
- MSI Tomahawk Max for strong ATX ~$200 value
- ASRock Lightning / MSI Edge TI as top mini-ITX contenders depending on LAN needs
Cons (as expressed in the video)
- Power-limit boards can underperform for high-watt CPUs:
- Sapphire Pulse (150W hard limit)
- MSI Pro MP (140W limit with very hot VRM when removed)
- Multiple “cheap” models with hard limits
- Some ASUS lower-priced boards run very hot (>100°C) due to cheaper VRM MOSFET choices.
- Some boards become price-unreasonable at the top end; by ~$300, X870 is suggested as the better platform for features like USB4.
- ASRock reliability concern for X3D CPU users is a major decision factor.
- NZXT/ASRock-manufactured N7 B850 (one model description) has a design issue: plastic shrouds covering thermal areas, potentially detrimental for M.2 cooling (primary M.2 is fine; secondary/tertiary slots are cautioned).
Unique points mentioned about specific products (quick list)
- Gigabyte B850 AI Top: ~52°C peak; dual 10GbE, Wi‑Fi 7; best “extreme B850.”
- Sapphire Pulse B850M Wi‑Fi: 150W hard limit, can’t be removed; cool (~70°C) but performance constrained.
- MSI Pro B850 MP Wi‑Fi: 140W limit; after removal VRM >120°C; described as poor at 9950X load.
- Gigabyte B850M DS3H: 170W hard limit.
- ASRock B850 MA / MX: 160W hard limit (works for lower-watt CPUs).
- ASUS B850 Max Gaming / Prime B850 Plus / Prime B850 MK: not power-limited but peaked >100°C; cheap discrete MOSFETs.
- MSI Tomahawk Max Wi‑Fi: recommended ATX ~$200 due to stronger VRM/IO/M.2/USB relative to MSI’s other ~$200 board.
- ASRock B850M Pro RS: best value; works with 9950X; but don’t use with X3D due to the broader ASRock risk.
- mini-ITX LAN/CPU preference: ASRock Lightning (Wi‑Fi 6E), MSI Edge TI (5GbE), others mostly 2.5GbE.
- MSI Edge TI Wi‑Fi (mini-ITX): strong contender; includes 5GbE.
- ASRock X3D caveat: recurring warning about ASRock potentially harming X3D CPUs (and possibly others).
- NZXT N7 B850 (ASRock-made): plastic shroud over thermally important areas; caution on secondary/tertiary M.2 cooling.
Speakers / roles
- Host: Steve (main narrator): all testing results, recommendations, and brand/model commentary come from Steve’s perspective.
- No separate reviewer voices are clearly indicated in the subtitles.
Overall verdict / recommendation
- Recommendation: If you want a B850 board for real high-load use (like a Ryzen 9 class 170W scenario), thermals/VRM matter more than small spec differences—most boards pass, but some are power-limited or run very hot.
- Best thermal standout: Gigabyte B850 AI Top (about 52°C peak) for extreme users.
- Best value: ASRock B850M Pro RS (~$130) only if you won’t use an X3D CPU (due to the ASRock risk mentioned).
- Avoid: Sapphire Pulse B850M Wi‑Fi, MSI Pro B850 MP Wi‑Fi, and “budget ASUS” boards that run >100°C, plus other hard-limited boards when targeting top-tier CPU power.