DEBAT PANAS! Roy Suryo VS Kubu Jokowi soal Bandingkan Ijazah Jokowi & Ijazah Lain | tvOne

Summary

The program features a heated debate over Roy Suryo’s claims that documents associated with Joko Widodo’s university education are inauthentic. Roy says comparisons with other diplomas show differences in features such as watermarks and embossing. He also points to a 2025 legalization as significant. Jokowi’s side challenges the comparison, arguing that the material Roy presents is a scan or photograph rather than an original document, and disputes the conclusions he draws from it.

The discussion also turns to claims about Jokowi’s graduation date. Roy cites statements that appear to give different dates and refers to differing versions of a thesis. He says he obtained thesis-related material from UGM officials and questions details such as a professor’s signature and appointment date. His opponents reject his interpretation and say the documents and Jokowi’s status as a UGM Forestry alumnus should not be judged on the basis of Roy’s claims alone.

A particularly contentious exchange concerns a claim attributed to Professor Ahmad Sumitro’s daughter, Aida, about her father’s signature. Other participants press Roy to substantiate the claim, arguing that social media posts or secondhand accounts are not a substitute for testimony in court. Roy says the matter can be addressed during the trial.

The debate repeatedly returns to whether the documents shown are originals, copies, or scans, and what can legitimately be inferred from them. The participants disagree sharply while emphasizing that the allegations and evidence should be tested in court. Roy is described as due to face trial on September 17.

Presenters and Contributors

• Roy Suryo — Defendant in the diploma-related case
• Abdul Gafur Sangadji — Roy Suryo’s lawyer
• Prof. Firman Pangaribuan — Joko Widodo’s lawyer
• Ade Darmawan — Secretary-General of Peradi Bersatu
• Program host — Not identified in the subtitles