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Por que 5 válvulas?

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Main ideas / lessons

  • The video explains why the author’s flugelhorn/tuba-related instrument concept uses five valves (a 5-valve flux/rotor system) rather than the more typical three- or four-valve setup.
  • A central theme is that adding a valve (especially the 4th/5th/6th rotor) changes intonation in the low register. The improvement must be designed so that specific “target pitches” (notably areas around low D/F and pedal tones) land within an acceptable tuning window.

  • The author emphasizes that valve fingering on a 4/5/6-valve instrument is not as simple as “press the extra valve and continue downward.” Low-register physics (tube lengths + harmonic/overlap considerations) creates counterintuitive tuning issues.

  • The author compares several approaches:

    • Traditional 4-valve system (and its predictable low-register detuning)
    • Compensated valve systems (as used on euphoniums/tubas)
    • A proposed single-rotor/double-rotor (French horn-like) approach
    • A final implemented/imagined solution: five valves with slides, including a 4th valve slide tuned differently

Concept: tuning window + why low notes get “hard”

  • The graphs use a tolerance band of ±10 cents:
    • Within ±10 cents → generally easier to correct “at the mouth” (lip/embouchure adjustment)
    • Outside that range → harder to play in tune reliably
  • Generalized observations from the graphs:
    • Notes below F♯ up through the pedal are significantly off in standard setups.
    • Some pitches can be 40–60 cents high (around a quarter-tone sharp), which embouchure correction alone often can’t fix.

The “4th valve” on a four-valve instrument (key correction idea)

  • The “4th valve” is not just an extra semitone/chromatic convenience.
  • It is calculated so that a 6th position/pitch is in tune.
  • The resulting behavior is described as non-intuitive:
    • A misconception is dismissed: you can’t simply press 4 and descend normally.
    • The tuning problem can appear immediately (e.g., low F too high).
  • For the E-related region on a 4-valve setup:
    • The expected note relationship is disrupted (described as something like E♭ behaving unexpectedly, with “C♯ effectively missing” in the pitch mapping).
  • Takeaway: valve mapping vs. harmonic series / physical tube lengths matters.

Proposed approach 1: compensated flugelhorn concept (historical + technical)

The author first tries a compensated approach inspired by euphoniums.

Compensated system method (as described)

  • Inspired by a system “invented by David Blakey (1874)” and developed historically through companies (narrated as a lineage including Boo → B&H / Besson).
  • Mechanism (described in figure-like terms):
    • Whenever the 4th piston is used together with another valve, air routes through:
      • 1st valve slide
      • 4th valve slide
      • plus a supplement/re-routing located behind the valve block
  • For euphonium-like compensation:
    • Activating valve 4 changes the instrument’s effective tonal center (example described: C major → F).
    • Meanwhile, slides 1–3 remain like a baseline instrument (the author ties slide differences to the physical tuning differences between C-mol and F slide sets).
  • For a flugelhorn:
    • When valve 4 is activated, slides 1, 2, 3 would need sizes like those described as F mellophone-like slide sizing.

Why it was abandoned

  • There’s no commercially available compensated flugelhorn valve block in the correct flugelhorn-specific gauge.
  • Building one from scratch is described as extremely difficult, and the rear supplement space would need to be proportionally shorter than in existing phonium/tuba blocks—making it impractical.

Proposed approach 2: double-rotor valve block idea (French horn-like), but rejected

  • The author considers a double rotor valve block like a French horn.
  • Logic:
    • Use rotor lengths corresponding to references such as B-flat (from flute trumpet-related lengths) and other horn-family benchmarks (mellophone/alto horn).
    • The author claims this would yield a setup about half the tube length of a French horn-type system.
  • Rejection:
    • The author notes French horn bore size (about 11.8–12.1 inches) is too large for a standard flugelhorn, so the concept doesn’t fit the target instrument.

Proposed approach 3 (final path): use 5th/6th rotors intelligently

The author studies tubas with five and six valves, noting even the rotor naming:

  • “low tone”
  • “half tone”

How the 5th and 6th valves are characterized

  • 5th rotor
    • Same piston length as the first piston of an F mellophone.
    • This makes the starting pitch around F significantly more in tune.
    • Example claim: switching to a fingering based on C + (analogous rotor) yields better tuning than 1 + (analogous rotor).
  • 6th rotor
    • Applies the same idea for a semitone relationship.
    • Example claim:
      • A problematic F♯ normally played as 2 + 4 on a 4-valve instrument (slightly high) becomes playable as 6 + 4 on a six-valve instrument and sounds “perfect.”

Core tuning philosophy described

  • Valves can “partially compensate” low-note tuning by effectively correcting tube lengths.
  • The author frames it as:
    • “with all the valves in line,” allowing blending/correcting routes using the normal valve combinations.

Comparison of tuning systems (as presented)

4-valve single-note system

  • Certain low notes are claimed to be very out of tune, with worst offenders around areas like A♭ in the charts.

Double/compensated valve block

  • Even though the system differs, the author claims tube-length identity produces:
    • exactly the same tuning chart
  • Their compensated-system goal:
    • Make low D in tune
    • With tradeoffs, such as:
      • slightly low E♭
      • slightly high D♯

5-valve and slide variations

  • Traditional 5th-valve tuning (without slides):
    • Targets low F (5 + 4) in tune (assuming no slide correction).
  • The author’s “invention”:
    • Modify the 5th slide to be slightly shorter so you can also play the “7th position” (5,2,3) where C replaces 1.
    • Remaining high-note issues are addressed by adding/retuning a 4th valve slide tuned to fix high notes that previously depended heavily on valve 4.

Outcome

  • The author describes the resulting tuning as “fantastic”, far better than a simple 4-valve chart.

Decision: 5 valves with slides vs 6 valves without slides

The author weighs two design paths and chooses:

Why choose 5 valves with slides

  • Practicality for a flugelhorn-sized instrument
    • The flugelhorn is conical, so extra rotor placement must be right after the valve block.
    • Fewer/optimized parts can make the instrument lighter.
    • Installing one extra lever is described as simpler than installing two (compared to the 6-valve case).
  • Hand ergonomics
    • On a C-valve tuba, all valves can be operated by the right hand.
    • On a 6-valve tuba, the narration claims:
      • 4 valves by the right hand
      • 5th and 6th by the left hand
  • Design availability concern (as described):
    • The author states there “isn’t” a flugelhorn with a compensated 6-valve style; only one with four single valves exists (per their understanding).

Alternate strategies from real players (examples cited)

  1. Use valve 4 as replacement for 1 and 2

    • Advantage: enables certain fingerings (e.g., described around playing “qu” for D and 2 + 4 for the sharp).
    • Disadvantage: many low-register notes remain out of tune; also lack of the “low sharp” in the described mapping.
    • Example player reference: Nakir(i)akov (spelled as shown in subtitles).

  2. Use valve 4 as replacement for 7th position (instead of 6th)

    • Strategy: lower by a tritone rather than a perfect fourth.
    • Goal: bring a sharp note closer to a playable range near the pedal.
    • Disadvantage: still many out-of-tune notes; requires major mouthpiece/embouchure corrections.
    • Example player reference: Pati Flores.

  3. Tune the valve 4 slide for only the few low-register notes needed

    • Especially useful when repertoire uses limited low-register chromatic notes.
    • Concrete example:
      • A slide tuned only for a single low note (low E) for a piece described as Hiding number one (low horn / masterclass context).
      • This could allow a simpler 4-valve instrument when demands are sparse.
    • Limitation:
      • Pieces with frequent chromatic low-register notes (example: “tanguito”) can’t be solved by tuning only one slide note.

Final general lesson: instrument improvements don’t replace technique

  • The author argues against the “shortcut” mindset:
    • Buying a piccolo trumpet (shorter instrument) won’t magically make high notes easy.
  • Analogous claim:
    • Even with valve design improvements, you still need years of embouchure development for the low/high extremes.
  • Personal/testimonial points:
    • The author had to adjust/learn early to change embouchure use.
    • They describe asking André Guf whether he “broke embouchure,” noting that he could change quickly between embouchures while the author could not.
    • Thiago Bil (horn player friend) is credited with helping resolve the issue.
  • Closing:
    • The author says it took about 15 years from identifying the problem to solving it satisfactorily.
    • They encourage contacting via the email in the video description.

Methodology / instruction list (as presented)

A) How to interpret tuning graphs (used throughout)

  • Use the tuning tolerance band:
    • 10 cents negative to 10 cents positive
  • Rule of thumb:
    • If a note is within ±10 cents:
      • correction is feasible at the mouth (embouchure)
    • If outside ±10 cents:
      • correction becomes difficult; likely requires valve/tube-length redesign (slides/rotor lengths)

B) Valve design/selection logic used for the final recommendation

  • Identify worst tuning areas in the low-to-pedal range (bass up to pedal D).
  • Choose an initial targeting strategy:
    • Pick rotor length so a key low target pitch (e.g., low D / low F / 6th position) lands near 0 cents error.
  • If high notes become problematic:
    • Add/retune a slide on a valve used heavily in high-register fingerings (author chooses valve 4 slide).
  • If considering 6 valves:
    • Weigh not only tuning, but also:
      • instrument weight
      • placement complexity
      • hand ergonomics (left vs right hand operation)
      • availability of compensated/appropriate valve-block designs
  • Final selection rule:
    • Choose 5 valves with carefully tuned slides rather than 6 valves without slides, because it’s easier to implement and operate on their specific instrument size.

Speakers / sources featured

  • Video creator/author (speaker delivering the explanation; unnamed in subtitles)
  • David Blakey (credited with the historical compensated system, “invented” by him; described as 1874)
  • Boo & Company / Besson (historical company lineage mentioned)
  • Nakir(i)akov (player/tuner example referenced)
  • Pati Flores (example player referenced)
  • André Guf (asked about embouchure changes)
  • Thiago Bil (horn player friend who helped with embouchure development)
  • Trumpet Herald (mentioned as a forum where the author posted previously)

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