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Toine Manders: In Deze Landen Betaal Je Geen Belasting

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Finance

Finance-focused summary (emigration + tax strategy themes)

The podcast episode focuses heavily on how Dutch tax rules—and potential future “emigration taxes”—could affect entrepreneurs and investors. The guest, Twan Manders, explains why he plans to move his tax residency away from the Netherlands, first to Florida (United States) and then to Portugal (temporarily). The discussion also covers Cyprus, Malta, and the Emirates (UAE) as potential alternatives.

Key instruments / jurisdictions / tickers mentioned

Jurisdictions

  • Netherlands
  • United States (including Florida)
  • Portugal
  • Cyprus
  • Malta
  • UAE (Emirates)
  • Georgia
  • Costa Rica
  • Paraguay
  • Isle of Man
  • Liechtenstein
  • Curaçao (mentioned as a treaty reference)
  • Bulgaria (examples)
  • Other Latin American countries (as general “no/weak treaty” risk)

Tax regimes discussed (no specific tickers)

  • Dutch Box 1 / Box 2 / Box 3
  • Exit levy
  • Consolidation / condensing assessment
  • Residence fiction
  • Withholding taxes
  • Capital gains tax
  • VAT / BTB
  • Inheritance / gift tax

Assets / asset classes

  • Real estate
    • buying/renting
    • depreciation
    • rental income
    • property transfer taxes (implied)
    • refinancing (discussed)
  • Foreign real estate in low-tax jurisdictions
  • Equities / stock portfolios
  • Crypto
  • Gold and silver
  • Pensions / capital insurance (exit tax)
  • Precious metals used as collateral examples (security posting)

Note: No specific stock/ETF/crypto tickers were mentioned in the subtitles.

Step-by-step / methodology frameworks described

A) Dutch “latent tax liability” / exit-consequences framework (entrepreneur + holding structure)

  • Example premise: value builds inside a Dutch business structure (e.g., company worth €1m).
  • If you leave the EU/EEA, certain latent tax becomes acute.
  • If you emigrate within the EEA, you may get a lifetime interest-free deferral without security, subject to conditions.
  • A “conservation/consolidation assessment” becomes collectable when events occur, including:
    • receiving dividends
    • selling/donating/bequeathing shares or selling the company
    • borrowing more than €500,000
    • repayment of deposited capital
    • dissolving the BV and/or leaving the EEA without security
    • failing an information obligation

B) “Emigrate personally vs. migrate the company” comparison

The guest argues that emigrating the individual often yields more benefit than relocating only the BV/partnership.

Rationale given:

  • avoids additional Dutch taxation on worldwide income/capital gains for the individual
  • reduces exposure to Dutch Box 2 (dividends/share gains) and other boxes depending on residency

C) Portugal “favorable regime” timing strategy (temporary residency)

  • Move to Portugal for a regime described as:
    • favorable tax status lasting 10 years
    • the first year portrayed as “most interesting”
    • after ~10 years, taxes become materially higher (example rates discussed below)

D) UAE / low-tax real estate structuring concepts (residency/treaty + Box 3 allocation)

Key ideas described:

  • If Dutch tax residency continues:
    • a formula is discussed for Box 3 treatment when Dutch real estate coexists with foreign real estate.
    • claim: outcomes can be favorable if Dutch real estate has little equity and foreign has more equity; it could be unfavorable in the opposite case.
  • To minimize Dutch Box 3:
    • guest suggests liquidating Dutch Box 3 holdings and shifting to foreign real estate so that Box 3 at the Dutch assessment date contains mainly/only foreign assets.
  • Security posting vs paying
    • to obtain deferrals, one may need security (bank guarantee/mortgage/collateral/down payment on shares)
    • “paying is worse” (capital tied up and forfeited returns)

Key numbers & explicit tax/threshold figures cited

Dutch / tax mechanics and rates

  • Latent tax liability example: ~44% in Box 1 attached to company value growth (company worth “a million” example).
  • Borrowing threshold triggering collection: €500,000 (borrowing more than this).
  • Conservator/consolidation assessment: described as remaining indefinitely (not written off after 10 years anymore).
  • Box 2 threshold: €68,000
  • Dutch Box 2 (income on shares): 31% (repeatedly referenced).
  • Dutch Box 1 (very high): “marginal 49.5% plus premiums.”
  • Box 3 / future change (policy proposal described):
    • “until January 1, 2028” effective 36% on “effective returns”
    • for other assets, taxation proposed to become more frequent/mark-to-market-like (tax annually even without realizing gains)
    • a “crooked definition” of “actual returns” (inflation not subtracted; expenses can be “little to none”)
    • exemption discussed: potentially real estate and “equity start-ups/real estate” exceptions taxed only when sold (e.g., at liquidation) rather than annually
    • described as “plan not yet law”

Portugal (temporary favorable regime)

  • After the initial years, Portugal becomes expensive:
    • 48% on top of salary + 35% premiums → cited total 83% for high earners
  • “First year” benefits:
    • no “mandatory premiums” in the first year
    • half of income exempt from taxation in the first year
  • Favorable regime lasts 10 years, then must leave or taxes worsen substantially.

UAE / real estate + tax examples (as described)

  • Guest claims:
    • 9% tax rate mentioned (likely real-estate related), then an additional 31% Dutch layer if not structured privately/through certain entities
  • Real estate transfer taxation and residency/entity nuances are mentioned, but no concrete UAE purchase tax numbers beyond the 9% reference.

US/Florida taxation and thresholds (in narrative terms)

  • Florida characterized as having no income tax (federal income tax still applies).
  • Netherlands described as extremely high for minimum wage due to personal tax system (about ~97% stated, with social security contributions on top).

Inheritance tax / “SP manifesto” figures

  • Future political risk theme: 75% inheritance tax mentioned as “completely crazy.”
  • Old manifesto reference:
    • “if you earn less than 100,000 through labor and work, 100% must be taxed away” (described as an election manifesto from 2012).

Performance metrics / investing performance

  • No portfolio performance metrics (returns, IRR, Sharpe, drawdown) were discussed.
  • Qualitative investing performance:
    • real estate investors are said to have “very nice returns” in the Emirates over past decades
    • suggested drivers: political stability, economic growth, business climate, and ease of building

Risks, cautions, and tradeoffs explicitly mentioned

  • Not legal advice / not investment advice
    • The guest explicitly says the discussion is not financial advice.
  • Temporal/regulatory risk
    • Portugal favorable regime is temporary; after 10 years, taxes “fleeced even more heavily.”
    • Dutch proposed changes could worsen and speed up capital flight (e.g., taxation on “effective returns”).
  • Security vs paying
    • If deferrals require security, the guest emphasizes that paying is worse because money is “lost” and returns are forfeited (capital tied up).
  • Treaty risk / residence risk
    • “Emigrant tax” proposal could create enforcement issues when moving to countries without a good tax treaty.
    • Residency classification described as a “grey area” (tests involving personal bond, permanent home, etc.).
  • Litigation/jurisdiction risk
    • Without treaty protection, outcomes may depend on vague Dutch residency concepts and specific courts/regions (e.g., Amsterdam/The Hague references).
  • Real estate structuring risk
    • UAE strategy depends on complex Box 3 formulas and the equity/debt mix.
    • recommends doing homework and working with “good parties,” and implies refinancing/building-permit scarcity effects matter.

Explicit recommendations / positioning

  • Emigration is framed as the “best option” to reduce Dutch taxation burden (“best option… then you are free to age it however you like,” as described via “immigration/emigration” strategy).
  • If staying in the Netherlands, available choices are framed as limited and unfavorable:
    • “emigrating”
    • buying real estate in low-tax countries
    • “being fleeced”
    • “being locked up”
  • Foreign real estate exposure is positioned as the main viable holding strategy under restrictive Dutch taxation changes (stocks/crypto/gold/silver described as harder to retain efficiently).
  • Portugal is positioned as a temporary bridge to wait for family immigration (“green cards” referenced) and to access favorable first-year rules.

Disclosures / disclaimers

  • The guest states:
    • “that is certainly not recommended”
    • “not financial advice”
  • The episode is framed as an informational/political-economic discussion rather than investment consulting.

Presenters / sources mentioned (at the end)

  • Twan Manders (guest)
  • Toine Manders / host name implied in video title (“Toine Manders: …”)
  • Podcast/network:
    • So That’s How You Get Rich
    • Sponsor: Nestar Smart Finance

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