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What It's Like Working With Demons...And Why I Stopped

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The speaker presents a personal testimony and warning against working with demons. They say they previously collaborated with demonic forces—especially within Western esoteric traditions such as Golden Dawn grimoire work and the Goetia (including the “72 demons of the Goetia”)—and claim they achieved results. They also describe experiences that felt like a demon “presence” in a room. However, they insist they will never work with demons again, arguing the practice is dangerous, morally corrupting, and ultimately harmful.

Why They Chose to Make the Video

  • They claim there have been “obstacles” and spiritual interferences in recent days to prevent them from posting.
  • They argue the topic is important because demon-work is becoming trendy on social media (e.g., sigils, requesting things from demons), and they believe promoters underestimate the risks.

Their Worldview: Demons as Psychologically Influential and Harmful

  • They avoid defining demons in detail, but describe them as intelligence-like forces that work through “the lowest levels of human psychology.”
  • They characterize demonic presence as denser, “gritty/grimy/shady,” and more animalistic and unpredictable than angelic presence.
  • They claim demons can:
    • lie,
    • evade,
    • attempt to compromise spiritual protections.

Why People Get Into Demonology / Demon-summoning

They give multiple motivations:

  1. “Practical magic” vs “high magic”

    • They say practical magic is aimed at material outcomes (money, love, success) and, in their view, often relies on demonic forces more than angelic ones.
    • They argue angels prioritize “lifting” people spiritually, while demons allegedly focus on getting people what they want—though at a cost.

  2. Rebellion against Christianity / antinomianism

    • They claim some people turn to demonolatry because they perceive Christian authority as oppressive and seek an oppositional identity.
    • They criticize Luciferian/Satanist framing of “Satan as liberator,” arguing this is a fallacy and that it ultimately enslaves rather than liberates.

Two Major “Methods” Described, and Their Dangers

  1. Grimoire-based “Solomonic” / Goetia-style control

    • They describe ritual structures such as:
      • banishing beforehand,
      • a circle/triangle boundary,
      • invoking names (with demons portrayed as commanded rather than free).
    • Despite protection, they claim demons still look for “chinks in the armor,” such as:
      • tricking practitioners into leaving the circle,
      • trying to get someone to enter the triangle.
    • They claim demons require a price (e.g., sacrifices/offerings).
    • If the practitioner fails to deliver, they say negative consequences and “curse-like” events can follow.

  2. Theistic Satanism / friendship-model demon devotion

    • They describe this as an open relationship without protective boundaries or restrictions.
    • They argue it removes safeguards, leaving practitioners vulnerable to malevolent intent and even possession.
    • They cite a personal ritual involving a Babal/Mars-related ritual framework where one volunteer became the “material basis,” claiming the person was effectively possessed and later appeared traumatized.

Personal Experiences Used as Evidence of Harm

  • They recount an experiment with voodoo in their 20s, claiming they heard a creepy knock and saw a hooded figure at the door, interpreting this as negative influence attracted by their experimentation.
  • They describe a broader pattern: after shifting toward “the light” (what they call White Lodge/angelic orientation), they say demonic forces reacted with intensified attacks, including:
    • accidents,
    • health problems,
    • work and financial problems,
    • hostility from multiple people—especially when they sought higher consciousness.
  • They interpret these experiences as proof that demons do not ultimately want liberation; they want to corrupt or take someone “off the playing board.”

Core Conclusion: Demons Aren’t Friends and Aren’t Necessary

They provide two main reasons they say no one should work with demons:

  1. They are not your friends

    • Even when they grant favors short-term, the speaker claims demons aim to degrade, destroy, and discard.

  2. You don’t need them

    • They argue people turn to demons only because they believe they have no alternative.
    • They promote manifesting outcomes through one’s own “divine creative power” (e.g., creating sigils) rather than outsourcing agency to malevolent beings.

Overall Message

The video is a cautionary moral/spiritual argument: demon work may seem effective or thrilling briefly, but the speaker claims it leads toward psychological corrosion, spiritual warfare, and self-destruction. They frame demon influence as part of a larger cultural and political spiritual conflict and encourage viewers to “go back to the light.”

Presenters / Contributors

  • Main speaker (presenter): Unspecified (not named in the subtitles).
  • Spiritual protectors mentioned:
    • Michael (Archangel)
    • St Joseph
  • Figures/entities referenced:
    • Solomon
    • “Goetia” demons (including “Goetia” / “72 demons”)
    • “Babal” (associated with the Mars/Babal ritual mentioned)
    • angels/demons broadly
  • Organizations/accounts mentioned:
    • “lifting the lamp” channel branding
    • Odyssey account (no additional named presenter)

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