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This new Avinox motor is crazy.
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Product Reviewed
Avinox MS2 e-bike motor (used in the T-Wing Flux long-travel carbon e-bike).
Key Features Mentioned
Motor: New Avinox MS2
- Up to 1,500W peak power (with the higher-end build kit)
- 150 Nm torque
- ~25% more torque than the prior MS1 (described as changing the game)
Efficiency / Noise Improvements (Claims)
- Less resistance than MS1 → expected more efficient battery use
- Reduced clutch noise/rattling
Bike Platform Tested: T-Wing Flux
- High-pivot long-travel design
- Different from the previously released T-Wing Turbo Forest Pro
- Suspension:
- 180 mm fork
- 178 mm rear travel
- Mixed-wheel capability
- Can run 29er or mixed setups
- Switching to a 29er reduces travel to 170 mm
- High-low flip chip
- Adjusts for wheel size / ride characteristics
- The lower mixed-wheel position is described as slacker
- Short chainstay
- Helps with maneuverability
Pros (What Stood Out)
- Extremely strong climbing performance
- Rider describes it as “very very torquey” and “a weapon”
- On climbs, it holds speed easier and keeps higher RPMs longer
- Clear advantage vs MS1 and competitors (positioning)
- MS2 is another step above MS1 in power/torque
- Claim: MS1 already outperforms top-end Bosch / Shimano / SRAM in torque/power
- Trail ride feel / performance
- Traction praised on the first ride
- Playful and maneuverable, aided by the short chainstay
- Quietness improvement:
- XT Di2 derailleur quieter than before
- Motor/drive noise expected to benefit from reduced clutch noise
- Downhill control comfort
- Described as comfortable with strong control
- Still manageable even though geometry leans toward steep terrain
Cons / Concerns (or Tradeoffs)
- Wheel-size tradeoff
- Running a 29er reduces travel to 170 mm
- Cornering feedback from first-ride notes
- Some rear wheel skating on flatter/drier corners (expected with smaller/mixed traction)
- Some front-end pushing / understeer
- Requires staying “on it” through corners
- Potential durability concern
- Main worry: durability of the “little idler wheel”
- Rider observed it already being noisy, raising concern about wear under high torque
Comparisons Made
MS2 vs MS1 (Previous Avenox Motor)
- Higher peak power: up to 1500W
- Higher torque: 150 Nm (+25%)
- Claims:
- Less resistance
- Less clutch noise
- Noted performance difference:
- Better speed holding and sustained RPMs on climbs
T-Wing Flux vs Other T-Wing Model (Turbo Forest Pro)
- Flux uses a different high-pivot configuration
- Flux also offers more travel
MS1 vs Other Major Motor Brands
- Claim: MS1 is already more powerful/torquey than top-end Bosch / Shimano / SRAM
User Experience / First-Ride Impressions (Narrated)
- Climbing
- Required careful assist-mode selection (auto vs turbo) due to strong torque
- Rider joked about getting “spat on your ass” if not careful
- Trail behavior
- Strong traction and comfort
- Geometry favors steeper / rowdier tracks
- Jumps / rollers
- Suggested it may feel slightly heavier or more lethargic than shorter-travel or lighter setups
- Still described as rideable and maneuverable
- Noise test mentioned
- Rider describes performing a noise test on a rocky trail, implying attention to drive noise under load
Unique Points List (Distinct Product-Related Claims)
- Avinox MS2 motor introduced; mentioned as part of International Avinox Day coverage.
- MS2 delivers up to 1,500W peak and 150 Nm torque.
- 150 Nm is +25% torque vs MS1.
- Expectations of new battery/drive behavior (noted as drawing more amps); battery usage vs MS1 to be tested.
- MS2 paired with the T-Wing Flux: 180 mm / 178 mm high-pivot carbon e-bike.
- Flux described as a monster truck, aimed at aggressive trails.
- High-pivot design highlighted as different from earlier T-Wing models.
- Mixed wheels supported; 29er possible but reduces travel to 170 mm.
- High-low flip chip adjustability; low mixed position felt slacker.
- Short chainstay improves maneuverability.
- MS2 torque may reach the rider’s personal comfort limit; careful mode selection needed.
- Two build kits: - Both: carbon frame, MS2, and an older internal 800 Wh battery - Higher-end kit: 1500W peak - Lower-end kit: 1300W peak (still up to full 150 Nm torque)
- MS2 vs MS1: better speed holding and higher RPMs for longer on roads/climbs.
- Claim: less resistance → improved efficiency (battery expected to last longer than MS1).
- Claim: reduces clutch noise/rattling (less noise than MS1).
- Stock weight noted: ~48 lbs (22 kg).
- Cornering behavior depends on setup/terrain: rear can skate; front can push.
- Rider worries about idler wheel durability; already noisy.
- Rider ends excited and expects tuning/setup improvements.
Speaker Views (Separate Contributors)
- Primary rider/reviewer (main narrator):
- First-ride impressions on climbing, traction, handling, noise/comfort, and the idler durability concern.
- Show host / Pinkbike intro voice:
- Launch context and spec/marketing framing (MS2 torque/power + bike links).
Overall Verdict / Recommendation
Strong recommendation for riders prioritizing climbing punch and aggressive long-travel handling. The Avinox MS2 is presented as a clear step up over MS1, with major torque and speed-holding gains and expected improvements in efficiency and noise.
Main potential downside: unknown long-term durability of the idler wheel, which the reviewer is specifically watching for during future testing.
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