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Macro Talk: 10.2.2026
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Market performance & cross-asset interpretation (bonds “not the worst”)
- The hosts debate whether bonds were the worst asset class, concluding that while bonds may have lagged at times, the week overall looked relatively flat and risk-off, with most assets under pressure—especially raw materials/commodities.
- Despite that, bonds performed better earlier in the week; the main shift came toward week’s end when bond yields fell (“broke down”).
- A key theme: data releases (PCE, then non-farm payrolls) appeared to be major drivers of cross-asset price action, implying that correlations/links between markets were more statistically meaningful than usual.
What the payrolls and other data implied
- The jobs report (payrolls) was viewed as weaker than expected, but not without complexity:
- Other labor indicators (unemployment and supporting data like ADP, listings, and wages) were “a bit weak” but gradually improving.
- The most notable concern was a downturn in average hourly earnings (YoY), reinforcing the view that wage growth is slowing and the labor market may be less tight than it looks.
- Household data was consistent with a familiar pattern:
- Spending is strong, while income growth is weak, and the savings rate is declining.
- Construction spending remains supportive for data centers, with only a small direct contribution to GDP growth but viewed as a better real-economy proxy for activity in that sector.
Growth vs inflation regime and what it means for valuation
- Using “macro regime probability” framing, they argue the market is still discounting a relatively one-sided environment of strong growth and strong inflation—though there are signals of softer inflation.
- A major analytical claim: over roughly six weeks, equities traded roughly unchanged while bond yields rose materially, suggesting:
- A regime dynamic favorable to “growth,” but also
- Stocks haven’t become cheaper; rather they’ve become more expensive because discount rates rose (higher yields/cost of capital), even if earnings expectations aren’t dramatically worse.
Global and equity-surface observations (non-US vs US; AI concentration)
- The bond pressure is described as global, not only US.
- Stocks show “price leveling” globally, but with important composition differences:
- Non-US equities generally underperformed relative to US benchmarks (SPY), with European stocks especially weak.
- US action appears increasingly centered on AI and AI-related trading, consistent with the idea that growth expectations remain concentrated and resilient despite tightening pressures.
The ECB/Europe policy discussion: recession risk vs inflation targets
- A subscriber-led question (discussed via a prior Prometheus conversation) frames the ECB as facing a dilemma:
- With inflation above target (noted around 3.8% in Europe), tighter policy could require more downside—possibly even a recession—to force inflation lower.
- The concern raised: central banks may be behind the curve, tightening slowly while hoping inflation proves “transitory,” potentially delaying financial stability concerns until tightening becomes constrained.
- They contrast Europe with the RBA, described as tightening more in line with conditions; credit growth is highlighted as strong.
Chart of the week: oil logistics, marginal supply, and tail risk
- The “chart of the week” argues that oil flows have increased significantly in recent weeks, particularly through ship-to-ship transfers, based on raw-material/transport trackers (e.g., Hormuz/on-route measures, transit trackers).
- Even with more barrels moving, the marginal cost of supply is described as higher:
- Oil prices sit near ~$100, while additional supply is said to be priced as if marginal barrels cost ~$30–$40 more than earlier “cheaper” supply.
- Crucially, this is argued to reduce right-tail / catastrophe risk (i.e., extreme oil shocks where the market can’t source marginal barrels), meaning the oil market is less likely to spike toward something like $200 compared with the prior setup.
Corporate profits framework: dissaving + concentrated investment
- One host presents an accounting-consistent explanation for corporate profit variation:
- Corporate profits are modeled as driven largely by:
- Household dissaving
- Business net investment (including depreciation/capital consumption)
- Corporate profits are modeled as driven largely by:
- Since the post-pandemic period:
- Household dissaving has become a dominant contributor to profits.
- Technology-focused business investment is also important, but investment strength is described as highly concentrated, especially in tech/data-center/buildout-related capex.
- The debate then centers on sustainability:
- How long can households keep dissaving (spending above income) given asset-price stabilization?
- How long can technology investment keep lifting broader investment activity across the cycle?
- They note that rising profits must ultimately come from someone’s balance sheet—linking profit growth to household and business financial behavior.
Audience Q&A themes (positioning, correlation, energy-yield link)
- Are commodities “overvalued”?
- Valuation is treated as less useful than incremental supply/demand and market stress.
- For oil, current levels are viewed as close to a “fair value” created by restored supply with higher marginal costs.
- Why are everything correlated?
- Correlation is attributed to shared exposure to risk premiums and discount rates, influenced by macro factors like energy/inflation shocks.
- They reject the idea that everything is investable only through beta, emphasizing that diversification may require active approaches (e.g., trend-following, carry-style strategies).
- Oil vs bond yields relationship changed
- Mechanically and via “spillover” from energy prices into inflation calculations:
- Markets can react with lags; diesel (not crude directly) matters for CPI energy components.
- Over time, oil’s inflation evidence can drive yields upward even if oil prices flatten.
- Mechanically and via “spillover” from energy prices into inflation calculations:
Presenters / Contributors
- Bob Elliott
- Aaron Prometheus
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