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These Girls Are Why You CAN'T Camp in National Forests Anymore...

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Overview

The video recounts the disappearance and murders of Kylen Schulte and Crystal Turner in August 2021 near Moab, Utah. It also argues that public attention—especially online speculation and later involvement from a high-profile investigator—played a major role in both the case’s twists and the lingering uncertainty about who the “creepy man” was.

Timeline and the “creepy man” warning

  • Aug 13, 2021 (night): Kylen and Crystal camped in the La Sal Mountains (remote, roughly 20–30 miles from Moab). Earlier that evening, they met friends and repeatedly discussed a nearby man they nicknamed “the creepy man.” The video claims this person camped close to them and made them feel unsafe.

  • Text messages turn dark: After returning to their campsite, they texted friends increasingly concerning updates—describing the man moving closer and walking around in the dark (one claim mentioned him allegedly howling through trees). Eventually, the messages stopped abruptly.

  • Aug 16 (Mon): With no contact, they were reported missing after they did not show up for work and friends/family became alarmed by the lack of communication.

Finding the bodies and early investigation issues

  • Aug 18: A friend, Cindy Sue Hunter, located their silver Kia and then discovered the women’s bodies near a creek. Both were reported to have been shot multiple times.

  • A police representative emphasized “no ongoing danger to the community.” The narrator portrays this as controversial because no suspect or motive was immediately known.

  • Investigators reportedly faced delays because they didn’t know the precise campsite location, limiting early search efforts and slowing development of leads.

Major suspect leads and dead ends

Unnamed 27-year-old local man (traffic stop Aug 17)

A Moab man was stopped by police shortly before the bodies were found. The stop reportedly sounded unusually unsettling, and authorities later questioned him due to connections to the Moonflower Co-op, where Kylen worked.

Key points highlighted in the video:

  • The man allegedly had interactions with Kylen, including at least one flirtation gesture.
  • Forensic testing on items (such as a jacket with apparent blood) did not link him to the murders, and he was cleared.
  • The video notes that hate-crime concerns were discussed because Kylen and Crystal were a lesbian couple. However, the man denied hostility toward gay people and reportedly didn’t realize Kylen was married (as described by the narrator).
  • Even so, his alibi was described as incomplete, leaving lingering uncertainty.

Gabby Petito connection (rumors)

Because these cases overlapped in the Moab area around the same time, online theories linked the murders to Brian Laundrie. The video says investigators found no evidence connecting the murders to Brian Laundrie.

Forensic and investigative milestones

  • December 2021: Police sought specific ammunition—9mm Hornady silver bullet casings—suggesting an attempt to remove evidence.

  • January 2022: Investigators narrowed the estimated time of death to Aug 14, around 11:35 a.m. They also reported the women were not sexually assaulted, despite being partially undressed when found.

Internet theories and the “Dog the Bounty Hunter” turning point

  • The video explains that many online theories circulated, including speculation about a known predator (e.g., “John Freeman Coles”). It suggests police did not treat these ideas as strongly supported.

  • Early May 2022: Duane “Dog the Bounty Hunter” Chapman traveled to Moab, generated press attention, and encouraged tips. The video credits his involvement with helping reinvigorate the investigation.

  • May 11, 2022: Police named Adam Pinkowitz (45)—described as a drifter living out of a vehicle nearby—as a primary suspect. Reported connections included:

    • He previously worked at the same McDonald’s as Crystal.
    • Community co-workers allegedly warned others about him.
    • Claims that he may have shown hostility toward gay people.

Police alleged that Pinkowitz confessed to killing two women and allegedly provided details not public at the time.

Critical problem: Pinkowitz had reportedly died by suicide in late Sept 2021. His body and vehicle weren’t found until May, meaning he could not be tried or directly questioned.

Why uncertainty persisted

The video emphasizes frustration that even after a suspect was identified, closure remained limited, including:

  • Dog the Bounty Hunter publicly questioned whether police named the right person, which the video presents as adding further confusion.
  • A central lingering concern: Kylen and Crystal’s messages reportedly referenced the “creepy man” but did not name him. The narrator finds it hard to understand how they wouldn’t recognize someone personally—if the man discussed was indeed Pinkowitz—given alleged employment/area overlap.

Overall claim / throughline

The narrator argues the case became shaped by remote-location difficulties, dead ends, high-profile media overlap, and intense online speculation—leading to investigative progress while also prolonging public uncertainty.

The title framing suggests the incident is presented as evidence (in the narrator’s view) that camping in national forests/remote areas is increasingly unsafe or complicated.

Presenters / contributors

  • Narrator / video creator (unnamed in the subtitles)
  • Dog the Bounty Hunter (Duane “Dog” Chapman) (appears via involvement in the investigation)
  • Kylen Schulte (victim; discussed)
  • Crystal Turner (victim; discussed)
  • Cindy Sue Hunter (friend who found the bodies; discussed)
  • Sean Paul (Kylen’s father; discussed)
  • Mackie Schulte (Kylen’s brother; discussed)
  • Adam Pinkowitz (suspect; discussed)
  • Brian Laundrie and Gabby Petito (referenced for rumored/overlapping theory)

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