EESTI ESO #243 Elisa Kolk. Kas sina usud karmasse? Lapsepõlv, muusika, Maroko ja Los Angeles

Overview

Elisa Kolk is interviewed on Eesti ESO #243. The conversation moves through music, destiny, creativity, spirituality, and her relationship with places like Tartu, Morocco, and Los Angeles.

Quick “Favorites” Round

• Colors: Pink/black
• Food: Pasta with cream and chicken soup
• Favorite film: Interstellar — she loves sci‑fi space themes and the unknown

Aliens + Parallel Selves

Elisa strongly believes we’re not alone in the universe. She discusses possible forms of life and even suggests that there may be “different versions of Elisa” across parallel universes, where outcomes shift in tiny ways based on choices.

Destiny vs. Free Will

She argues for a blend:

• Some things feel pre-written (“the stars are written”)
• But we still must choose and live our path

Music, for her, feels like a calling/mission—something she never truly deviated from. Even imagining an alternate life (like becoming a chef), she frames it as the “wrong life,” as if her real direction remained the same.

Childhood Origins (Tartu)

• She grew up in Tartu.
• Early on, she was captivated by stories and ideas—especially Mamma Mia on TV.
• Her parents were supportive, and she studied music alongside regular school.

A brief humorous moment: while talking about music theory, she jokes about mentally “short-circuiting” between chord-related terms.

Alternate Life Fantasy: “Spy Mode”

When asked what she’d do if not music, she jokingly says she’d be a secret agent/spy (CIA-style), tying the idea to her taste for intense films/series and true-crime culture.

Creativity as a “Portal” + Dream Ideas

Elisa describes songwriting as not entirely forced—ideas arrive when she’s not chasing them. She often wakes from dreams with lyrics or story material and records them immediately (including a mention of a moment at 3 a.m.).

She frames creativity like a channel through which universal themes come through.

Karma (Core Theme)

She says she believes in karma—as a natural law that works regardless of whether someone believes in it (likened to gravity).

Key points she emphasizes:

• Karma is awareness and responsibility, not just punishment
• What returns to you isn’t always immediate “reward/punishment”
• The world may appear unfair because we can’t see the full inner reality behind other people’s outward success

Karma in Her Work

Elisa explains that her “karma” story concept developed over time (not instantly). Her goal isn’t to point fingers, but to remind people how daily thoughts, actions, and energy shape life—“everything comes back in a circle.”

She also compares karma-style eternity to extreme religious versions of paradise/hell as ideas widely understood across cultures.

Meditation + Practices

• She tries to be more present.
• She meditates and stays calm on waking.
• She avoids her phone for the first couple hours.
• Nature helps her most.

Life Across Countries: Morocco / Los Angeles Energy

• She lives in Morocco, Spain, and Sweden, with Estonia as home.
• Morocco feels especially conducive to creation and “spiritual” connection—desert, ancient land, and animal life.
• She playfully engages with mystical ideas (e.g., pyramids as antennas; Atlantis nearby).
• She plans to visit Los Angeles, describing it as a “dream” culture with fast pace—where some people may seem fake or overly performance-oriented and where only a small percentage truly “make it.”

Career Goals

Her aim is personal and straightforward:

• See how far she can go
• Keep creating music with soul
• Find her listeners/people

She acknowledges the grind behind glamour: streaming numbers, writing, editing, and long creative processes. She notes that the karma-related story took over six months.

Feedback and Authenticity

• She avoids doom-scrolling comments and doesn’t linger in negativity.
• She values criticism when it’s justified and comes from mentors.
• Authenticity matters: if art feels artificial, people sense it.

“Altered State” Spirituality (Stage / Meditation)

Elisa describes experiences where:

• consciousness and body can feel somewhat separate
• adrenaline during stage moments creates a heightened, almost “out-of-body” sense of being fully conscious while her body performs

Death + Afterlife + Time

She believes life doesn’t end with death. Her framing includes:

• waking from a dream analogy
• non-linear time (referencing Interstellar)

She links meditation to altered experiences and connects them to the idea that there’s more beyond the body.

Closing / New Music

• She confirms her new song is available on streaming platforms.
• She teases that she’s already working on what’s next—something she expects will be even more impressive than the karma story.

Roosi + Animal Love + Estonian Street-Cat Nostalgia

A warm, personal moment:

• She talks about her small mixed-breed dog, Roosi (“spaniel and poodle”).
• She shows intense kindness toward animals and cares for cats/kittens in Morocco.
• She also laments that Estonia’s street animals are less common now.

End

She thanks Estonia and wishes Elisa well.

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Main Standout Elements / Highlights

• Interstellar and the aliens/parallel universe conversation as a worldview anchor
• Creativity as dream-driven and channel-like, not purely “workshopping”
• A thoughtful, long karma philosophy: responsibility, energy return, and karma not being only punishment
• A personal contrast in her own mind: one side wants festival/artist life, the other wants farm/home life with animals
• Los Angeles as a “dream factory” with superficial speed, contrasted with deeper Estonian introspection

Jokes / Light Moments

• Imagining herself as a CIA/spy if not a musician
• Quick wordplay/mental stumble when discussing music (“chord or not? chord”)
• Light mystical references: pyramids as antennas, Atlantis nearby
• A humorous answer about where she wouldn’t want to be (“Not in Estonia”), followed by a warm correction about loving Estonia’s forest smell

Notable Personalities Mentioned

• Elisa Kolk (main guest)
• Edvin Kibus (mentioned for a kickboxing/out-of-body comparison)
• Alreksei Sidnikov (professor author of Karma Logic, discussed)
• Mendeleev (referenced via dream origins of the periodic table)
• Luc(i) dreaming / Lucy (mentioned as a comparison for waking from a dream)
• Movies referenced: Interstellar, Black Swan, Whiplash (drumming movie), Mamma Mia