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HONEST Thoughts On BOB In TEKKEN 8!

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Storyline

  • This video does not cover a game storyline (Tekken 8’s narrative).
  • Instead, it focuses on in-fighting, character balance, and matchplay for Bob in Tekken 8.

Gameplay highlights & character overview (Bob in Tekken 8)

  • The creator frames Bob as a main character (along with Leroy).
  • They explain they didn’t make an immediate “day 1” impression; rather, they learned Bob’s kit and pushed rank.
  • Core theme: Bob’s kit offers strong poking and optional stance-based offense, with many tools designed to keep opponents uncomfortable.

Strengths / good tools mentioned

Optional stance / low “stance-slop”

  • Bob isn’t forced to transition stances constantly.
  • He can choose when to use stance tools.

Poking tools & “jailing” / flow pressure

  • 1,4 (one down four) is called “really good,” especially because it can catch or block opponents’ behavior—players can’t simply duck or ignore it.
  • 14 behavior has changed; certain follow-ups can create sequences opponents struggle to respond to.

Movement

  • Wave dashing is described as good, though the creator notes they can’t do it as cleanly as before in ranked.
  • Back dashing is “okay,” implying Bob’s movement style remains functional.

Damage and launcher/control tools

  • Launching throw changed into a command grab
    • ~40 damage, or 45 if it hits the wall.
  • New crouch throw with a just frame component
    • Non-just-frame: ~35
    • Just frame: ~45
    • Wall-focused potential mentioned: up to ~78

Parry / just-frame additions

  • A punch parry is introduced (not necessarily the creator’s favorite in practice).

Heat Smash system & just-frame optimization

  • Heat smash can deal higher damage with correct timing:
    • All (just-frame route): ~60
    • One achieved: ~55
    • “Normal” timing: ~50

New/changed attack properties and pressure

  • Slide
    • Knocks down and is meant to set up combos (the creator didn’t fully discover the follow-up combo).
  • Spinable 2
    • Described as a homing mid with -8
    • Used particularly to punish players anticipating the slide.

Heat specifics

  • Heat engage options mentioned:
    • 442: good range, but tracking isn’t great
    • Spinable 1,2
    • Down-forward 4,0,4: a new 13-frame punish
    • While-rising 1,2: a diving-elbow type punish with chunky damage
  • Heat “breakdancing” sequence
    • Sweep → transitions into spinable
    • Called strong; around -13 and mixable with follow-ups
  • Heat spinable (forward 3+4)
    • Presented as “sick” and floor-breaking

Strategies & key tips discussed

How Bob players should think about matchplay

  • Don’t rely on old Bob punish habits blindly
    • Several inputs and punish tools were changed.
    • Returning players from older games (Tekken Tag 2 / Tekken 7) may need adjustment.
  • Exploit new just frames where they matter
    • Command grab and crouch throw deal higher damage with just-frame execution.
    • Heat smash is a major example: timed just frames increase damage.
  • Use mix-up tools built around crouch/low interactions
    • Several crouch-related mixups are highlighted, including tools that leave opponents in hard-to-handle force-crouch/disadvantage states.
  • Punishment weaknesses are real—play carefully
    • Bob can’t properly punish -15 frame moves, described as a clear weakness.

Concrete “strategy-like” examples mentioned (not fully step-by-step combos)

  • Wall damage focus
    • Some throws and heat options strengthen or deal more damage near the wall.
  • Crouch/move selection based on opponent blocking
    • The creator repeatedly references frame advantage/disadvantage values and how move safety changes when opponents block standing vs crouching.
  • Side-step usage as defense/mixup response
    • Mentions side-stepping (e.g., around 1+2-type pressure) to avoid or manage attacks.
  • Down-back 3,4 follow-up counter-hit idea
    • If down back 3,4 connects under the right conditions, it can lead to a counter-hit knockdown scenario.

Systems/changes to Bob (what’s “new” or different)

  • Forward-forward 1+2 grab input changed
    • Old interaction mentioned as using up-forward 1+2 instead of forward-forward 1+2.
    • The creator calls the input “weird.”
  • Several moves renamed/relocated, with new frame data
    • Example highlighted:
      • Back 4 → changed to up 4 (described as a weird change)
    • Many lows have different safety/advantage values:
      • Mentions down-back 3 changes and other low property shifts
      • Emphasizes crouch/low mixups and their resulting advantage/disadvantage
  • Roll/backstep limitations
    • Mentions Bob can’t roll back the way he used to.
    • Some past inputs are removed.

Overall assessment from the creator

  • The creator considers Bob very strong, placing him just below S-tier (“just below the highest tier”).
  • Main reason he isn’t higher:
    • Bob has significant shortcomings, especially regarding punishing -15 frame moves.
  • Additional note:
    • Many players may struggle with Bob early because they don’t know the matchup, implying Bob improves in effectiveness as opponents learn his patterns.

Gamers / sources featured

  • King King Jay (video creator/speaker) — only featured source mentioned.

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