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Phil Vickery's Perfect Steak and Ale Pie | This Morning
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Overview
Presenter/Channel: Phil Vickery (This Morning)
Ingredients (as mentioned, with substitutions)
Meat
- Chuck steak, ~20% fat
- Kept in big chunks for the pie filling
Vegetables
- Onions
- Carrots
- Mushrooms
- Grill first, then slice before adding
- (Chicken pie variation) Leeks
- Added to the chicken filling
Tomato
- Tomato puree — 1 spoon (a “little bit”)
Browning / Thickening base
- Flour
- Added later only if thickening is needed
- Phil doesn’t rely on flour thickening early
- Butter
- Used with flour/roux to thicken
- More butter than flour for texture
Stock
- Granular stock cube (type not named)
- Water
- “A touch” / add as needed during simmering/thickening
Ale + balance
- Ale: ~300 ml of “bog standard bitter”
- Sugar: “a pinch”
- To take the edge off bitterness (ale/bitter becomes bitter when reduced)
Seasoning
- Pepper (to taste; no specific amount)
- Salt: not used
- Because stock cubes already contain salt
Pastry / Assembly
- Shortcrust pastry (top and bottom)
- Egg
- To egg the pastry edge and for brushing for color/finish
- Pie bird (optional steam vent)
- Pops steam/vents during baking
Serving extras (as shown/mentioned)
- Mash
- Extra gravy
- Peas
- Note: “am loves his spuds” → mash implied
Method (step-by-step)
1) Start the filling
- Use chuck steak in big chunks.
- Keeps slicing/cutting from showing too many lumps.
- Phil prefers not to brown the big chunks for this pie.
- Add onions and carrots.
- Stir in tomato puree (“a bit… for color”).
- Mix at this stage for color, then continue.
2) Build flavor with ale
- Add the granular stock cube.
- Add a pinch of sugar (explicitly to counter ale bitterness).
- Add pepper (no salt).
- If needed, add water (“a touch”).
- Cover and begin to simmer.
3) First cook
- Simmer on the lowest setting for ~1.5 hours
- Or around 2 hours (as referenced)
- Goal: meat becomes tender.
4) Chill/rest before pastry (critical)
- Chill the meat/filling thoroughly right after cooking.
- Warning: If you add warm stew to shortcrust pastry, it can push through the pastry base.
5) Thicken near the end
- Bring the filling back to a state where it’s simmering.
- Thicken using a butter-based thickener to avoid lumps.
- Technique cue to prevent lumping:
- Mix flour with butter/fat first before it hits the hot mixture.
- Phil notes caution about lumps: if you don’t mix flour and butter first, it can go lumpy.
- Aim for slight over-thickening so the filling moves slightly when cut (especially for a top-and-bottom pie), rather than being runny.
6) Mushroom addition
- Grill mushrooms first to keep a meaty texture.
- Slice them.
- Add at the appropriate stage (“add… at this point” once thickening is sorted).
7) Assemble the pie
- Use a pie tin.
- Fill the pie to be “proud” (generously filled).
- Egg the edge of the pastry, then lay on the top pastry.
- Top pastry thickness: about ~0.4 cm (roughly “a quarter of a centimeter”).
- Seal by thumbing up the edge so it sticks.
8) Vent / pie bird
- Use a pie funnel/pie bird (steam vent).
- Use it where the top isn’t solid all the way down so the head pops out.
- Requires a hole in the top for it.
9) Bake
- Bake for 35–40 minutes.
- Color note: rich golden/orangey sheen from egg yolk.
10) Finish + serve
- Serve with:
- Mash
- Extra gravy
- Peas
Chef tips / mistakes to avoid
- Chill thoroughly before pastry: warm filling can push through the shortcrust base.
- Avoid lumps when thickening:
- Mix flour with butter/fat first.
- Use more butter than flour for a velvety result (avoid harsh, flour-heavy texture).
- Ale bitterness management:
- Add a pinch of sugar because reduced ale/bitter can be very bitter.
- Meat handling:
- Use big chunks of chuck steak so you don’t end up with visible lumps in slices.
Variations discussed
Chicken pie (similar method)
- Simmer chicken filling
- Thicken at the end
- Add leeks
- Best/extra tip: leave overnight chilled
- Mentioned as good even “as is” after chilling
Different ale types (general)
- Ale/bitter should be bitter/darker beer
- He references examples like porter/Guinness for the “beef and ale” concept
Equipment mentioned
- Pie tin(s)
- Oven
- Pie bird / pie funnel (steam vent)
- Shortcrust pastry
- Basic cookware for simmering/thickening (implied)
Source (as stated)
- “For the recipe details go to the app” (no specific external source named)