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Ep 14 | Property Management in Australia
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Episode 14 Summary (Money Side Up Podcast, “Property Management in Australia”)
1) Macro and rates backdrop (RBA + Australian markets)
- The hosts discuss an upcoming RBA interest rate decision, recorded shortly before the meeting, with market pricing heavily leaning toward a rate cut (around a 93% chance).
- Jared says he’d like to see a cut and expects it could reduce many borrowers’ mortgage rates. He notes many mortgages sit around the mid-to-low 6% range and could move toward the high 5% range.
- Will is more cautious, suggesting the RBA may hesitate due to inflation concerns and election timing, preferring to be “late” rather than risk triggering another inflation problem.
- The hosts expect a gradual path rather than one major change:
- Possibly 1–3 cuts in 2025 and 1–3 in 2026
- Mortgage rates may not return quickly to very low levels
- The “optimistic” scenario of starting with a 1 or 2 cuts is treated as unlikely without major changes.
- They discuss potential impacts on property prices, including:
- Some areas/segments have recently performed strongly (noted as ~under 1.2–1.5 price segments).
- More expensive/luxury segments may soften, alongside refinancing/borrowing constraints that stop some buyers.
- Refinancing limitations may explain why some owners wait or renovate rather than move.
2) Policy and housing finance themes (first home / mortgage relief)
- An article is referenced about a Labor government proposal/promise involving how HECS/Hecs-like debt is treated for first home buyers.
- The wording is described as ambiguous, seemingly aimed at people near the end of eligibility/term (or similar situations).
- The hosts interpret it as potentially improving borrowing capacity for first-home buyers and refinancers who are currently struggling.
3) HECS/HECS repayment vs borrowing capacity (“It’s income assessed”)
- A key clarification: HECS is assessed based on income (borrowing capacity), not the debt balance itself, in the simplistic way many assume.
- Subtitle examples describe how banks may “shade” income and apply buffers, which can reduce borrowing capacity more than borrowers expect.
- Takeaway: review your HECS strategy and the full borrowing calculation, because paying down HECS may not automatically increase capacity the way people expect.
4) Politics and tariffs as an investment/interest-rate risk
- The hosts discuss tariffs tied to US political conditions, including references to Trump and outcomes described as “predictable unpredictable.”
- They argue tariffs could:
- Strengthen the US dollar
- Add upward pressure on rates or slow US rate cuts
- Affect Australian expats and investment portfolios through currency and US-linked earnings
- They frame volatility as potentially creating investment opportunities, not only risks.
- They encourage investors to reassess investment purpose and exposure (including businesses tied to US earnings, taxes, or regulatory change).
5) Guest interview: Ashley Goodchild on Property Management in Australia
Guest background and positioning
- Ashley Goodchild is described as a leading voice in Western Australian property management, connected to the South Perth market and as a director of a property-related business.
- She claims to teach property managers how to build the right property management businesses.
- The hosts cite their own previous experiences as positive (and not paid) to support her credibility.
6) How to choose a good property manager (and red flags)
Red flags / warning signs
- A major “controversial” red flag: a property management business operating as a “poor cousin” to sales, especially when the sales director/principal is very sales-focused and property management isn’t prioritized.
- Another warning: relying only on top search rankings instead of credible reviews.
What to look for (practical checklist)
- Property-management focused ownership: Ashley emphasizes a director/principal who is 100% focused on property management operations day-to-day.
- Use Google reviews thoughtfully:
- Look at Google reviews, not just the name appearing first on listings.
- Ask about portfolio vs task management:
- She distinguishes portfolio-based management vs task-based management (separate specialists for leasing, inspections, tenants, owners).
- Her view: portfolio management supports a healthier tenant–owner–manager relationship.
- Investors should ask directly which model the office uses.
- Escalation and backup:
- Ask who you speak to if the property manager is on leave or sick.
- Ask who handles escalations.
7) Fee-focused vs value-focused decisions
- Ashley argues investors often get trapped negotiating fees only, while the bigger determinants are:
- Speed of marketing and achieving tenancies
- Quality of service, viewings, negotiation, and execution
- She suggests small fee savings can be erased by slower leasing outcomes.
- Recommendation: compare fee schedules directly and evaluate total outcomes, not just percentages.
8) Leasing process: questions that predict performance
Ashley recommends owners ask:
- How many home opens will be required?
- Over what timeframe will they occur?
- How quickly can the property be put on the market (including any delays if preferred vendors are unavailable)?
- Her expectation model suggests successful leasing often involves multiple home opens within ~7–10 days, depending on tenant availability.
9) Contract pitfalls and negotiation points
- Common term lengths: many agreements around ~24 months.
- Ashley says she uses two-year agreements mainly for time-management reasons.
- She advises caution with contracts longer than two years.
- Key risk: if an owner needs to exit early (sell or move in), the contract may allow liquidated damages, described as potentially up to 50% of what the agent would have earned over the management period.
- Practical recommendation: negotiate a special condition allowing the owner to terminate with no penalty, with short notice like 7–14 days.
10) Costs and fee categories (what owners should expect)
A) Ongoing management fees
- Management fees are typically a percentage of gross rent collected, deducted as rent is received.
- Routine inspections (in WA): up to four times per year.
- Typical inspection fees mentioned: roughly $77–$99 per inspection (varies by state and property).
B) Leasing/marketing fees
- Advertising/portal fees:
- Portals often charge per property, and multiple portals can mean multiple charges.
- Letting fee:
- Typically around two weeks’ rent
- Explained as covering the full leasing process: viewings, applications, lease preparation/signing, and bond lodgement.
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Condition reports, including legislative requirements for each tenant.
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She advises budgeting that the first ~3 weeks of rent may be absorbed by leasing-related fees.
11) “Hidden fees” and transparency
- Ashley’s view: she’s not seeing true “hidden fees” issues; transparent property management means fees are disclosed up front.
- She notes potential gaps if property managers don’t charge for certain tasks (e.g., some may omit an end-of-lease financial summary fee), implying inconsistencies could emerge later.
12) Managing different landlord/client mindsets
- Ashley says there’s no fundamental difference between expats vs residents.
- The real distinction is:
- Intentional investors vs accidental investors
- Accidental/owner-occupier scenarios (e.g., renting temporarily while overseas) tend to be more emotion-driven, requiring more involvement in maintenance decisions.
- Intentional investors tend to approach decisions more businesslike and standardized.
13) Property competitiveness: pricing, evidence, and market supply/demand
- Ashley says tenants don’t always require “modern pristine”—generally clean and well-maintained is what matters.
- She recommends landlords:
- Ask for evidence for rent pricing, not just a number.
- Assess supply/demand using rental listing counts, such as comparing how many rentals exist in a suburb (she mentions realestate.com).
- Operational expectation:
- If there are few home open attendees, rent may be priced too high.
- If there are many, rent may be priced too conservatively.
14) Maintenance budgeting: what’s normal and what’s proactive
- Maintenance often spikes in the first 12 months after acquisition.
- In WA, Ashley considers plumbers/electricians being called once or twice per year fairly normal.
- Repeated callouts can indicate the property needs deeper renovations.
- She emphasizes:
- Proactive maintenance reduces long vacancies and expensive catch-up after tenants leave.
- Bundling small repairs into one visit prevents the “come back later” cost cycle.
15) Compliance and regulation changes (WA focus + cross-state differences)
State-by-state complexity
- Australia’s rules are state-by-state, making multi-state ownership harder to navigate.
WA changes mentioned (generally positive/best-practice)
- Rent increases: moved to 12-month minimum frequency (instead of every six months).
- Pets: owners generally must accept pets, but can set conditions (e.g., carpet cleaning receipts).
- Minor modifications: tenants can make reasonable changes for safety/utility (examples include shelves/toolbook, hanging points), sometimes with tenant-paid costs.
Eviction/tenancy rules risks discussed
- Ashley notes WA currently allows no-grounds termination (ending leases without a reason with notice), which she considers important for handling situations involving safety risks even when rent is being paid.
- She expresses concern that:
- No-grounds termination could be removed in WA like in other states, or
- Rent increases could become property-linked rather than tenant-linked, which she argues could be inequitable when tenants cycle quickly.
16) Final advice: build trust and ask questions early
- Ashley wants owners to trust the industry more, emphasizing there are many excellent property managers.
- Her core recommendation is relationship-building:
- Ask hard questions upfront
- Get to know the property manager personally
- Treat them as a long-term partner, not only a vendor called when something breaks
- She also encourages landlords to connect via social channels and maintain communication beyond urgent maintenance.
Presenters/Contributors
- Jared Brown (Senior Financial Advisor; presenter)
- Will K (Will) (Colleague/Friend; presenter)
- Ashley Goodchild (Guest; property management expert)