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Key takeaways
Product Reviewed
- Machenike F1 controller (Black edition) (Includes comparisons to the previous White version.)
Key Features Mentioned
- Polling rate: Marketed up to 8,000Hz, but practical testing reported around 4,000Hz. Latency improves slightly at higher rates.
- Thumbsticks: Uses K-Silver JS13 Pro Plus / JS13 Pro Plus–class sticks in the Black version (noted as a meaningful upgrade vs White).
- Switches & response:
- Optical switch for faster response.
- Hot-swappable micro switches to change click/feel.
- Digital trigger with adjustable resistance:
- 3 stages/lock positions
- Black version reportedly has higher measured trigger force feel than White.
- Battery: 1500mAh
- Gyro + vibration:
- Gyro described as usable but not special for gyro-first players.
- Vibration is the major selling point.
- Connectivity modes: Wired, Nintendo Switch mode, and dongle mode.
- PS4 mode won’t work
- Switch can be woken up.
- PC software (Windows app/driver):
- Supports button mapping, joystick-as-mouse, deadzone/curve adjustments, and advanced settings.
- The brand reportedly previously lacked PC software, but now includes one.
- Issue: the Black model may not be recognized by the PC software (likely needs an update).
Vibration System (Major Focus)
- 3 vibration modes:
- HD
- Rotary
- Mix (dual-motor) — mixes rotary + HD/linear
- HD vibration: described as very close to phone HD vibration—high density with strong “tingle”/thrill.
- Mix mode: described as richer and more “3D-like,” matching gameplay timing well (example given: Spider-Man swing timing).
Voice Coil / Built-in Speaker
- Includes a speaker for sound effects in supported games.
- Accuracy is not precise; if voice coil accuracy matters, the review suggests considering other controllers (e.g., Mobapad).
Design / Build & User Experience Notes
- Premium Black feel vs White:
- TPU coating gives a more 3D, shiny, sparkly and luxury look than White.
- Black avoids White’s reported discoloration/staining over time.
- Thumbstick tension ring change:
- White featured an adjustable stick tension ring.
- Black uses a ring-like design that does not rotate (tension adjustment removed).
- Durability improvement vs White:
- White users reportedly saw stick looseness and shell popping when pulling.
- Black is described as more stable with less catching/sticking during hard turns.
Performance Results & Measurable Points
Latency (Wired)
- Tested as fast for competitive play:
- At 4,000Hz:
- Stick latency: ~2.19 ms
- Button latency: ~1.9 ms
- At 4,000Hz:
- White version reportedly had around ~1 ms latency, so Black is slightly slower, but the reviewer argues 1–2 ms is practically negligible for most players.
- Recommendation: if your PC supports it, 4,000Hz is a best practical setting vs 8,000Hz (despite marketing claims).
Stick Accuracy / Stability
- Drift: none noted after calibration.
- Stick circle error: reported 0.1%
- Bitrate: stick tested around ~11 bits even though set to 12 bits
- Linearity: described as good; aiming feels smooth and consistent.
- Main downside: resolution
- Resolution reported about ~1000
- Step resolution around ~0.0009
- Reviewer is disappointed because the White version had similarly limited resolution, meaning the upgrade didn’t address this.
Pros (As Stated)
- Exceptional vibration, especially HD and Mix mode
- Reviewer calls it “top-of-the-line,” even better than other pads they’ve used.
- Strong claim: HD vibration works on PC (rare/typically difficult).
- Fast latency suitable for competitive FPS/low-delay play
- Hot-swappable micro switches + optical switch for customizable feel
- Improved durability vs the White version
- Premium TPU grip feel and comfort, especially for larger hands
Cons / Drawbacks (As Stated)
- Resolution remains low (~1000) and does not improve vs White
- PC app recognition issue: Black model reportedly not recognized by the software (likely needs an update)
- Thumbstick tension adjustment removed (non-rotating ring)
- Ergonomics: large controller; better for slightly larger hands, but frequent thumb movement can feel effortful
- Gyro not a standout (aim accuracy is fine, but not tailored for gyro-focused play)
- Voice coil audio accuracy not precise enough for people who need it
- Upgrade value ambiguity: reviewer unsure upgrade from White to Black is worth it for everyone
- Price: Black + White together mentioned around $300 total, described as “not for everyone”
Comparisons Made
- Black vs White (main comparison):
- Black adds JS13 Pro Plus–class stick upgrade + better durability
- Black removes stick tension adjustment
- Black shares the resolution disappointment
- Black latency slightly worse (~2 ms vs ~1 ms), but still considered fast enough
- Machenike vs DualSense (PlayStation haptics):
- Both praised, but reviewer feels Machenike’s HD vibration has a unique “flavor.”
- DualSense may still have broader game support for Sony haptics.
- Machenike vs other PC-haptics approaches (e.g., “haptics built in” / Apex 6):
- Reviewer suggests others struggle with consistent PC HD rumble compatibility.
- Claims Machenike successfully delivers HD vibration on PC without typical roadblocks.
- Voice coil vs other controllers:
- Suggests Mobapad/TTMAX alternatives depending on what accuracy matters most.
Unique Points List
- Early video recording issue (file corruption) mentioned (not product-related).
- Black edition sets higher expectations, but spec changes are limited beyond the stick upgrade.
- Stick upgrade: J13 Pro Plus class stick included in Black (vs White not having it).
- Optical switch + hot-swappable micro switches for customization.
- Optical response claimed to be faster than other controllers.
- Battery: 1500mAh
- Includes gyro + vibration; Switch wake support mentioned.
- PS4 mode not supported.
- Latency testing presented; framed as competitive vs typical pads.
- Black design: TPU “premium” look (shiny/sparkly).
- Black avoids White’s discoloration/staining concern.
- Thumbstick tension ring is non-rotating on Black.
- Durability improvement: reduced looseness/popping vs White.
- Micro switch customization noted (default black Omron; other switches like “pink” preferred for better feel).
- TPU grip helps in sweaty conditions; good for larger hands.
- Large controller size can increase effort during rapid repeated thumb movements.
- Digital trigger with adjustable resistance (3 stages).
- Trigger resistance measurements: White ~130–132 vs Black ~150–165.
- Macro buttons: 2 back + 2 shoulder buttons (4 total).
- Three connection modes: wired, Switch, dongle (charging pins exist; dock not released).
- Shoulder attachment described as “hat/cap cover” style for reach/reload/close-aim actions.
- Strong praise: vibrates on connection.
- PC software/driver added; black model not recognized.
- PC app supports mapping, joystick-as-mouse, deadzone, and curve changes.
- Polling supports up to 8,000Hz; test showed 4,000Hz practical result.
- Stick bitrate up to 12 bits; read ~11 bits.
- Macros count: around 24 keys.
- Dot-matrix RGB/LED customization.
- Vibration modes: standard HD (linear), rotary, and Mix (dual).
- Mix described as richer/“3D-like” with better timing match.
- HD described as “phone call” style feel.
- Gyro mention: some stutter/hesitation vs other reviewed controllers; aim accuracy still good.
- Stick performance: good drift behavior, low circle error, good linearity.
- Resolution measured low (~1000), similar to White; improvement not delivered.
- Wired latency at 4kHz: stick ~2.19 ms, buttons ~1.9 ms.
- White latency reportedly ~1 ms; difference considered negligible.
- Recommendation: prefer 4kHz where possible.
- Game preference: story-based games favor Mix; HD alone can hurt immersion/compatibility.
- HD-only felt like more “Switch-style” vibration in Steam games (lower game integration).
- Claim: Machenike succeeds delivering PC HD vibration (key selling point).
- Voice coil/speaker works in some Switch-supported games, but audio accuracy isn’t precise.
- If voice coil matters: reviewer prefers alternatives (Mobapad; TTMAX noted as lacking accurate voice coil but strong vibration).
- Overall recommendation depends on whether you already own multiple pads; upgrade from White is ambiguous.
Speaker Breakdown
- Single main reviewer voice throughout; no clearly distinct multiple speakers.
End Verdict
Buy Recommendation
- Strongly recommended if you want top-tier vibration—especially HD vibration on PC—and competitive-fast latency.
Consider Carefully If
- You’re upgrading specifically from the White version, because the reviewer found:
- Resolution didn’t improve
- Tension adjustment was removed
- Upgrade value may be potentially ambiguous
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