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I'm changing investment strategy! This how I aim to hang on to profits if stocks rise or fall.

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Finance

Finance-focused summary (structured “heads you win, tails you win” investing)

Presenter

  • Clive Thompson

Macro / market context driving the shift

  • Thompson believes parts of the market are “a bit overvalued / frothy”, referencing Alan Greenspan’s 1996 “excessive exuberance.”
  • He is not predicting a crash, but is preparing for either direction.
  • He targets sectors he views as most expensive:
    • AI stocks
    • Chip makers
    • Silicon / board manufacturers
    • “Anything to do with data”

Explicit framework / methodology for selling (portfolio de-risking)

He describes filtering first, then deciding case-by-case how much to trim.

  1. Identify weakest / least healthy companies
    • Uses Simply Wall St
    • Exports results to Excel
  2. Identify lowest growth prospects
    • Another list exported to Excel
  3. Identify companies with poor dividend characteristics
    • Uses Simply Wall St’s “low dividend score” as a proxy for unreliable / low / non-existent dividends
    • Frames these as possible candidates for sale (not automatic)
  4. Identify positions with very large unrealized gains / oversized exposure
    • Notes some holdings are up ~20x or more vs purchase price
    • Suggests “top slicing” rather than exiting fully
  5. Case-by-case review using Simply Wall St “snowflake”
    • Assesses quickly:
      • growth / future prospects
      • past track record
      • business health
      • dividend score
      • value score (cheapness vs sector peers)
  6. Prefer partial trims
    • If a position is in loss, he says he avoids fully exiting
    • Instead, he sells part of each position to maintain a portfolio that still “looks good”

Strategy after trimming: “structured products” to profit up or down

He suggests raising cash and redeploying mostly into structured/customized investments, especially:

  • Capital-protected and low-strike reverse convertibles
  • Availability varies by country; often accessed via banks/brokers

Key concept: capital protection vs risk

Capital guaranteed / capital protected

  • 100% of principal is guaranteed only at maturity
    • Depends on the issuer’s counterparty risk
  • Not guaranteed if you exit early
  • Typically offers:
    • higher fixed/conditional coupon (example: 7%) if an index ends higher than today
    • otherwise you get back principal only
  • He stresses the guarantee is only as strong as the issuing bank/broker and is maturity-based

Product types mentioned (key mechanics and numbers)

1) Capital protected (100% protected) linked to index/performance

Example structure described:

  • Pays 7% if the stock market/index is higher after 1–2 years
  • If lower: principal returned, no upside

Alternative described:

  • 100% of any increase up to a cap
    • Example cap: 10% over a year
  • If the market drops: capital back, no loss

  • Personal stance: he says he’s not interested in these fully protected products because he’s willing to take risk.


2) Partially protected (e.g., “95% protected”)

  • Worst case: receive 90% or 95% of principal → capital loss possible
  • Best case: more upside participation

Typical mechanics mentioned:

  • May include an upfront fee (example ~1%; sometimes embedded in price)
  • Upside often capped

Illustrative payoff math he gave for a 95% protected product:

  • Underlying rises 10%: payout described as 95 + 10 = 105
  • Underlying rises 20%: payout described as 95 + 20 = 115
    • He interprets this as effectively “missing” 5% of the underlying move due to the protection structure

3) Barrier reverse convertibles (he says he “doesn’t like” these)

Example described:

  • 14% interest if none of the linked stocks fall below a barrier
    • Example barrier level: 53% of initial price
  • If any stock breaches:
    • investor may be forced to buy the worst performer at 100% of initial price
    • he explains this as buying at the note/strike reference even if the market price has fallen

Contrast he makes:

  • Holding the stocks directly vs holding the note
  • If stocks fall, the barrier condition can still cause significant loss, even after coupons

4) Low strike reverse convertibles (LRC) (the one he says he likes)

  • Not capital guaranteed

Example structure (illustrative, includes concrete parameters):

  • Issued at 100
  • High coupon: ~7%–8%, paid quarterly in his example
  • Underlyings: one, two, or three stocks, or an index
    • He focuses on three well-known stocks (examples given, but not a complete list)
  • Low strike: 60% of initial price
  • Term example: 18 months
    • Also mentions examples of 1 year, 1.5 years, 2 years

Coupon logic:

  • He says the investor earns the coupon regardless of what happens (as written in the product)
    • Example: 8% per year

Maturity outcome logic:

  • If all underlyings are above the strike at the last fixing date:
    • investor receives 100 principal (plus accrued coupons from the coupon stream)
  • If the worst performer is below strike at maturity:
    • investor is forced to buy the worst performer at the strike reference
    • Example: buy at the 60% level
    • He emphasizes this can be economically like a lower “entry price,” because you paid less than 100 in the secondary market

Secondary market buying (where his “win-win” depends)

  • He claims that in Switzerland there are two-way quotes
  • Secondary market pricing varies with underlying performance, sometimes trading below 100
  • If buying at 80 (instead of 100):
    • coupon yield is larger as a percentage of what you paid
    • he describes additional effective upside if the strike is not breached

Sample upside calculation he described:

  • If bought at 80, with strike mechanics around 50/60-type and assuming no breach:
    • Potential total upside roughly:
      • ~25% upside on the “80 price” positioning
      • plus coupons (example over ~2 years: ~16%)
    • Total roughly ~35%–41% over two years (illustrative maximum), assuming no breach

Worst-case example he provides

  • If an underlying goes to zero, investor could be forced to buy at the strike reference, but the asset would be worthless
    • → capital can be lost

His conclusion for “low strike” worst-case with an 8% coupon over 2 years:

  • Worst case: he states you may lose a large portion of capital
    • Example claim: ~84% loss in his scenario after earning 16% coupons
  • But you may still keep the earned coupons/premium

Performance expectations / key numbers he claims

He runs calculations (mentioning ChatGPT / “Manis AI effect”) for his collection of products.

  • If the stock market rises +20%: expected return “around 30-something%” (including coupons)
  • If the stock market falls -20%: expected still positive return ~13%
    • Assumes stocks behave in line with the market

Rationale he gives:

  • buying structured products on the secondary market below 100
  • earning coupons

Risk management / cautions explicitly stated

  • Counterparty risk is crucial for capital-guaranteed/protected products
    • Depends on whether the issuer survives to maturity
  • Protection is only at maturity
    • Early exit may lead to losses
  • Structured products can be non-tradable in some jurisdictions
    • He claims Swiss examples are often tradable on the secondary market
  • Not investment advice
    • He repeatedly frames it as such
  • He warns not to rely on his mention of specific stocks
    • Emphasizes due diligence and suggests speaking to a financial advisor/banker
  • Products may include:
    • caps on maximum gain
    • early redemption clauses
      • issuer may redeem at par (100) early
      • you stop receiving future coupons and may need a new note at new (often higher) prices
  • He suggests these may not be suitable for retail investors
    • He says retail may not be allowed to buy in Switzerland

Assets / instruments / tickers mentioned

Underlying equity references (examples; not complete list)

  • Microsoft
  • Amazon
  • A third tech/blue-chip American company (unnamed)
  • Mentions technology stocks generally
  • Mentions blue chip pharmaceutical stocks as an example hypothetical basket (unnamed)

Market / index references

  • S&P 500
  • Dow Jones
  • FTSE 100
  • CAC 40 (described as “CAT current” / France index)
  • SMI (Swiss market index)

Structured product categories

  • Capital guaranteed / capital protected notes
  • 95% protected / 90% protected variants
  • Barrier reverse convertible
  • Low strike reverse convertible (LRC)

Instruments terms

  • “Secondary market quotes”
  • “Two-way quotes” (Switzerland)
  • “Secondary market below 100”

Disclosures / disclaimers

  • States “Nothing is investment advice.”
  • Advises readers to do their own due diligence
  • Advises consultation with a financial advisor / banker / investment advisor
  • Notes he may have “great tips” and “terrible tips,” and that mention of a stock isn’t a recommendation

Presenters / sources

  • Clive Thompson (main speaker)
  • Simply Wall St (filtering and metrics)
  • ChatGPT (referenced as part of his calculation workflow, per his statement)
  • Alan Greenspan (historical reference to “excessive exuberance,” 1996)

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