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The Bust Has Already Begun – Most Investors Just Don’t See It | Mark Thornton & Andy Schectman

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  • Early “World War III” conditions and macro instability: Mark Thornton argues the world is in the early stages of a broader global conflict (“World War III”), citing fighting in places like Ukraine and the Middle East. He also frames U.S. policy as a major driver—especially through energy/oil and raw-material leverage against rival powers such as China.

  • Central banks’ prolonged low-rate policy driving a hidden bust: The discussion centers on Austrian business-cycle theory: years of central bank inflation and suppressed real interest rates have supported high stock valuations and apparent economic normalcy. Beneath the surface, however, most households are said to be losing purchasing power. Key “under the hood” indicators include:

    • rising consumer price burden despite GDP/unemployment appearing stable,
    • declining real (inflation-adjusted) wage rates, and
    • extremely low consumer sentiment.
  • “Trust” breakdown signaled by bond markets: Andy Schectman and Thornton connect the theme to loss of confidence in institutions, official statistics, fiscal responsibility, and Fed credibility. Thornton points to rising yields, especially on long-dated Treasuries (including claims about the 30-year breaking key levels), as evidence that investors doubt inflation control and the real future return on long-term debt. He argues Treasury issuance has shifted toward shorter maturities, partly due to this distrust.

  • Private credit / private equity as a “next black swan”: A major focus is risk building in private credit and private equity, which grew rapidly after COVID-era credit expansion. Thornton claims:

    • deals started souring (with timing referenced around late 2025),
    • liquidity stress increased (including gates),
    • the Fed later used liquidity support (described as “not QE,” but characterized as QE-like) to address illiquidity in these markets, and
    • CEOs stepping down “in unison” as a warning sign of what may come next.
  • Gold/silver accumulation as a strategic response to fiat and conflict risk: Schectman argues central banks are buying gold aggressively (including claims of underreported amounts) while reducing exposure to U.S. Treasuries. Thornton agrees, framing gold and (some) silver as durable stores of value that “work” even in war and under sanctions. He suggests BRICS-aligned or conflict-aware states are preparing for a less U.S.-monopoly monetary order.

  • AI as another bubble fueled by artificial credit and government contracts: The conversation shifts to AI, arguing it resembles past cycles where revolutionary technologies attract massive investment and valuation overreach during credit-driven booms. Thornton emphasizes:

    • investment is propelled by misinformation and cheap financing,
    • high-credit-rating AI firms can borrow at favorable rates, and
    • the government role is substantial: he claims much AI revenue depends on government contracts tied to surveillance, tax enforcement, and social control (comparing to China’s model).
  • Advice to young people: Thornton’s closing advice is broadly optimistic: younger adults are portrayed as increasingly detached from mainstream parties and media, more alert to propaganda, and more open to learning how free markets work. He encourages them to study Austrian economics and look for government-driven distortions behind economic problems.

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  • Andy Schectman (host)
  • Mark Thornton (guest; senior fellow at the Mises Institute)

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