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Garmin CIRQA Update!
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Key takeaways
Product reviewed
Garmin CIRQA (Circa) wearable (wrist HR/HRV + sleep phase tracking; heart rate during workouts).
This is an interim “first results” report after ~4 days and 3 nights of testing. The reviewer plans a fuller review in 1–2 weeks, with more data likely extending toward 7–10 days total.
Key findings (accuracy)
1) Nighttime heart rate (HR)
- Compared against a Polar H10 chest sensor (reference).
- Overall: very good / “very well.”
- Most night-by-night graphs track closely.
- Occasional issue: Circa sometimes records slightly higher HR at moments when the reviewer gets out of bed, likely due to different calculation/handling of high-rate periods.
Unique points mentioned
- Uses correlation/graph comparisons vs Polar H10.
- Accurate within a tight HR range (reviewer notes an example around 42–52 bpm).
Verdict: Strong for night HR.
2) Nighttime heart rate variability (HRV)
- HRV requires beat-to-beat interval recording, deemed harder than HR.
- Overall: still pretty good / “nothing to complain about,” but with bias.
- In higher HRV ranges, Circa tends to show slightly lower HRV than the benchmark.
- Some nights show:
- Overestimation at the beginning, and
- Underestimation later (night-dependent).
Unique points mentioned
- HRV agreement judged as “pretty reliable” for recovery assessment.
Verdict: Good, with some range-dependent bias.
3) Sleep phase tracking (Deep / Light / REM)
- Compared against an EEG device (reference “silver standard”).
- The implied best diagonal match suggests the results visualized as a 100% agreement line (as referenced by the reviewer).
Reported coincidence/accuracy
- Deep sleep: 77% (good; among the best the reviewer has seen)
- Light sleep: 64% (mediocre)
- REM sleep: 46% (worst; major confusion)
Specific REM problems
- A significant portion of reference REM is classified by Circa as light sleep.
- Circa often detects little to no REM during the first half of the night; later REM looks better.
Unique points mentioned
- Reviewer suspects Circa uses the same algorithm/sensor as Garmin 470 and 170.
- Aggregate “many tests” chart suggests:
- It doesn’t match the best Garmin devices.
- The reviewer feels it’s closer to “level three” than better performers.
- It’s not as good as Garmin 470 / Forerunner 170 in these tests.
Verdict: Night HR/HRV are strong; sleep staging—especially REM—is the main weakness.
Heart rate during workouts (primary purchase reason)
Tested across multiple activities. HR tracking was evaluated using correlation and the proximity of points to a reference line.
Stationary bike / spinning
- Correlation: 0.99 (excellent)
- Very close tracking; minor early deviation but not training-impacting.
Running
- Described as improved vs earlier testing.
- Earlier issues (artifacts/hesitation at the beginning and unexplained peaks) are reported as reduced.
- One test indicates it didn’t “pick up” cadence during interval-like structure.
- Correlation: 0.93 (good/acceptable, not perfect)
Outdoor cycling
- Correlation: 0.94 (very good vs competition)
- Deviations more often fall below the reference line → tends toward underestimation more frequently than overestimation.
- Reviewer concludes outdoor cycling feels reliable, possibly helped by lighter watch weight.
Verdict: Workout HR tracking is solid to excellent, particularly cycling/spinning; running is good with small remaining gaps.
Wearing position & strength training considerations
- Reviewer did not test weight training directly, but noted known issues:
- Wrist tension can distort the signal, and wrist-based Garmin devices generally do poorly for strength training.
- Planned follow-up: test with a biceps strap (ordered; expects results after a few weeks).
- Concern: the strap uses non-standard proprietary small connectors, so universal third-party strap compatibility is uncertain.
- Reviewer suspects standard sizing might be 22/26 mm, but this connector appears much smaller.
Settings note (sleep performance affected)
- Sleep phase accuracy may depend on:
- whether worn on the dominant vs non-dominant wrist, and
- whether worn on wrist vs bicep.
- Reviewer recommends setting these correctly.
Big pro expectation
- If the biceps strap works well, Circa could become one of Garmin’s best HR devices, potentially outperforming more expensive wrist-based Garmin models due to improved sensing placement.
Apps / usability / quirks
- Sync time to phone is longer than some other devices.
- One manual workout recorded via a button didn’t save (occasional odd behavior).
- Garmin app
- Reviewer dislikes it for general review/interpretation (“cumbersome”).
- However, they like it for data collection and connecting multiple devices.
Pros / Cons (as stated or strongly implied)
Pros
- Accurate night HR (very good vs Polar H10)
- HRV generally consistent enough for recovery assessment
- Excellent workout HR for cycling/spinning (0.99) and strong for outdoor cycling (0.94)
- Running HR good (0.93) and improved vs earlier testing
- Potential to be a top HR performer if biceps strap improves sensing
Cons
- Sleep staging—especially REM: lowest coincidence (46%) and early-night REM often missed
- HRV bias in higher HRV ranges (sometimes under/over)
- Wrist HR during strength training likely distorted due to wrist tension
- Biceps strap compatibility concern (non-standard small connectors)
- App sync takes longer; occasional workout save issues
Comparisons mentioned
- Reference devices used:
- Polar H10 (reliable HR)
- EEG device (sleep “silver standard”)
- Sleep staging aggregate comparison:
- Garmin Forerunner 470 and Forerunner 170: Circa is reported as not as strong, described as “closer to level three.”
- Outdoor cycling competition comparison:
- Circa “looks very good compared to the competition.”
Unique points list (all distinct claims)
- Interim results after first 4 days / 3 nights; full review later (1–2 weeks, more like 7–10 days).
- Night HR matches Polar H10 closely; occasional slightly higher readings when getting out of bed.
- Night HRV is harder; generally consistent but lower in higher HRV range vs benchmark.
- Some nights show HRV overestimated at start and underestimated later.
- Sleep tracking tested with EEG; coincidence rates:
- Deep 77%
- Light 64%
- REM 46%
- REM is frequently misclassified as light sleep; early-night REM often missing.
- Possible use of same sensor/algorithm as Garmin 470/170 (reviewer expectation).
- Aggregate chart suggests Circa underperforms Garmin 470/170 in sleep-stage performance.
- Stationary bike HR tracking correlation 0.99; very good.
- Running HR improved in this dataset; correlation 0.93.
- Outdoor cycling HR tracking correlation 0.94; deviations more often underestimate.
- Cycling reliability may be helped by Circa’s lighter weight.
- Strength training not tested directly; wrist tension distorts HR; wrist Garmin generally bad for strength work.
- Biceps strap expected to improve HR accuracy but connectors appear non-standard/small; universal fit uncertain.
- Sleep tracking depends on settings (dominant/non-dominant wrist; bicep vs wrist).
- Quirks: workout recording sometimes fails to save; syncing takes longer than other devices.
- Garmin app: disliked for interpretation, but good as a multi-device data collection/review tool.
Speakers/views
- Single main speaker (Rob) throughout the transcript; no other reviewers contributing separately.
Overall verdict / recommendation
Best recommendation: If you care most about night HR/HRV and workout heart rate (especially cycling), the Garmin CIRQA/Circa looks strong based on early testing.
Main drawback: Sleep phase tracking—particularly REM—appears weak, with under-detection in the first half of the night and heavy REM→light misclassification.
Recommendation: Buy for HR + recovery (HR/HRV) and workouts, but don’t buy primarily for accurate REM sleep staging unless future testing improves confidence.