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'Shock And Awe' In September: Energy, Food ‘Going To The Moon’ | Jeff Currie
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Finance-focused summary (Jeff Currie interview)
Macro / rates / market moves (explicit timeline + numbers)
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September 3 (Thursday):
- Treasury yields fell
- S&P 500 and Nasdaq both rose ~1%
- Gold gained ~3%, recovering most losses from earlier in the week
- Bitcoin rose ~5% to above $81,000
- Brent crude was ~$97/bbl
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Fed policy debate (odds for a hike by Sept 16):
- CME FedWatch: probability of a hike fell from 66% → 50%
- Move attributed to Fed Governor Christopher Waller leaning toward holding rates steady
- Waller framed it as “giving disinflation a chance” (i.e., not hiking if inflation doesn’t respond)
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Caution/stance on “oil vs inflation” (Jeff’s core argument):
- Inflation pressures come from oil products—especially diesel and gasoline—not from crude oil prices alone.
Energy market framework: “crude is noise, products are signal”
Key instruments/metrics
- Brent crude: referenced at ~$97/bbl intraday
- WTI: discussed as the benchmark for “crude,” including the way bond markets track crude
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Diesel crack spread (diesel price vs crude-related pricing; described as crude-to-diesel “spread”)
- Surge to record above ~$16/bbl (near the beginning of the transcript)
- Later mention of a much larger diesel crack spread around ~$106/bbl profit spread (wording appears to conflate spread concepts, but the takeaway is that product margins are extremely elevated)
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Refining capacity disruption (diesel availability driver)
- Red Sea / “hoothies” attacks
- ~5–7 million bpd shut in (global-level impact)
- ~2 million bpd out of the Red Sea cited as a reason for higher oil prices alongside tighter products
- Black Sea grain corridor / grain supply
- Impacts food prices via diesel-driven logistics/agriculture inputs
- Refining outages/capacity losses
- 3 million bpd of refining capacity “taken out” (Black Sea/ports & related impacts)
- China cut ~1 million bpd, then later “started bringing some capacity back”
- Red Sea / “hoothies” attacks
- Supply-chain logistics constraints
- Panama Canal depth referenced at ~47.5 ft, limiting throughput
What changed (Jeff’s interpretation of the oil rally)
Jeff argues the key shift is not only crude flow (e.g., Strait of Hormuz reopen/close dynamics), but product market tightness, driven by:
- Reduced refining capacity
- Global inventory draw
- China returning as a buyer of discounted crude to arbitrage product margins
- Example: Russian “Espo” trading at ~$7 premium to Brent, delivering into the Pacific into China
Explicit macro-to-market transmission
- “Nobody consumes oil”
- Consumers use gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel
- Diesel is a cost input that spreads widely through the economy
- Therefore, inflation sensitivity should track product prices/margins, not WTI/Brent alone
Diesel and grains: “everything is tied to diesel” (explicit recommendations)
Diesel tightness → food inflation linkage
- Jeff ties diesel tightness to food inflation
- Wheat prices were described as a line “going straight up” following Black Sea grain corridor disruption
Recommendation framing (portfolio action)
- “Don’t try to take a view—just own the hard asset.”
- Own the basket of gold, silver, platinum (don’t try to time rotations)
- For commodities: “Own the full commodity indices… rotation may change, but trend persists.”
Trading / probability callout (diesel forecast)
- KGI traders’ prediction (quoted):
- Diesel currently ~$578 (implied level in the quote)
- ~65% chance diesel reaches $590 by end of month
- Payoff example stated: “$50 trade could yield $65” (exact math not verified from the subtitles)
Fed / inflation / supply shock logic
- Waller’s view (as relayed):
- Fed should avoid a hike into a supply shock
- A 25 bps hike likely won’t push CPI to 2%
- Jeff’s view:
- Fed can’t “fix” supply-side shocks (Middle East/refining capacity/transport)
- Rate hikes mainly worsen conditions through tighter financial conditions and debt servicing burdens
Debt servicing sensitivity (explicit numbers)
Jeff cites an illustrative calculation:
- Current “all debts priced” at ~3.2%
- Rolling averages could move to ~4.2%
- Interest payments could rise from ~$1.1T → ~$1.5T
- Conclusion: higher rates are painful given debt loads (public/private), so policymakers would try to talk hikes down
Commodities complex as a trade (explicit “what to own”)
Allocation-style guidance
- Energy
- Bullish on oil and the full oil complex (gasoline/diesel/oil)
- Grains
- Bullish but worried due to supply/weather/political disruptions
- El Niño described as “one in 500” with ~81% chance of super El Niño (as relayed)
- US production issues from weather; Russia export disruption from the Ukraine context
- Precious metals
- Own the basket (gold, silver, platinum)
“Supercycle” / rotation and index approach (explicit methodology)
- Jeff claims commodities have been the best-performing asset class since October 2020
- Framework:
- Rotation happens by subsector (e.g., coffee/cocoa/diesel/oil/gold/silver)
- But the “trend is one thing” (continues up)
- Implied approach mentioned:
- Buy/hold broad commodity indices rather than a single bet:
- “Own it all” / “own full commodity indices”
- For inflation transmission:
- Track diesel/product pricing (not only crude)
- Use product tightness + refining/distribution disruptions as the causal chain to grains/food
- Buy/hold broad commodity indices rather than a single bet:
Metals macro link: why gold and copper move together (plus carry/term-structure nuance)
- Unifying driver emphasized: the diesel connection across commodities
- Term-structure mechanics (methodology note):
- Commodities often show backwardation (futures/term structure differs from spot)
- Look at rolling front-month prices; “rolling spot price” warning is repeated
- Gold vs copper nuance:
- Gold is more sensitive to real yields and financial conditions
- Example timeline:
- Gold’s 2020 rise attributed to COVID liquidity/cash injection
- “Solvency problem” → turnaround around March 23, 2020
- Numeric examples mentioned in subtitles include distorted values:
- Gold levels referenced around ~$4,700 (likely subtitle distortion)
- Other segments cite levels around ~$2,000 and ~$1,200–$1,300
“Petrodollar died” claim and USD implication (macro)
Jeff asserts the petrodollar system is effectively dead, citing:
- 2022 sanctions on Russia’s central bank
- Increased role of gold, described as “took off like a rocket ship” around that time
USD implication:
- Jeff argues the dollar has been strong partly because recycling that would normally weaken USD has diminished
Miner/producers equity angle (explicit relative valuation numbers)
Preferred theme: dividend-rich “Municent” producers vs “Magnificent 7” tech
- Municent 7 free cash flow yield: ~15.5%
- Magnificent 7 free cash flow yield: ~2.7%
- Tone of guidance:
- Own some direct commodity exposure plus producer dividends (don’t rely solely on one basket)
Disclaimers / disclosures
- Video includes sponsorship/disclosure for a prediction-market platform:
- Couch (largest prediction market in US per sponsor text)
- Code mentioned: “lin” (subtitles show “lin l i n” style formatting)
- Sponsor segment states it is CFTC-approved and available in all 50 states
- No explicit “not financial advice” disclaimer appears in the provided subtitles beyond general caution language (e.g., “don’t try to take a view”).
Tickers / assets / instruments mentioned
- Indexes/Equities: S&P 500, Nasdaq
- Rates: US Treasury yields, CPI (inflation), CME FedWatch (tool)
- Crypto: Bitcoin
- Commodities:
- Brent crude, WTI
- Diesel crack spread
- Gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, bunker fuels
- Wheat, corn
- Bloomberg agricultural commodity index
- Gold, silver, platinum
- Copper (and “tin” briefly appears via subtitle errors)
- Aluminum, nickel, lithium, cobalt (electrifying metals)
- Prediction/forecast context:
- “KGI traders predicting diesel…” (KGI not confirmed as a ticker)
Key presenters / sources mentioned
- Jeff Curry / Jeff Currie (subtitles):
- CEO & founder of Real Macro
- Former head of commodities research at Goldman Sachs
- David (host): appears only as “David” in subtitles
- Christopher Waller: Fed Governor (comments referenced)
- Couch: sponsor / prediction market platform
- St. Louis Fed: referenced for a US diesel retail price chart
- BLS: referenced for “food at home” component of CPI
- CFTC: mentioned in sponsor availability/disclosure segment