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ANTITESA Cacing Cacing Naga Naga! - Ft. Andrew Susanto

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Market / macro context & performance mentions

  • The portfolio discussion includes “JCI” (Indonesia’s stock index) and crypto (Bitcoin).
  • The host claims Bro Andrew “outperformed everyone” this year, but no exact JCI/Bitcoin figures are stated.
  • Rupiah (IDR) weakness: Bro Andrew says the IDR weakened ~10% last year versus USD and that he prefers holding additional USD instead of reducing IDR exposure.
  • Indonesia economy outlook (10–15 years): broadly optimistic, with improvements expected via education and online education.
  • The USD vs IDR framing emphasizes rupiah weakness as relative to US strength, not only “Indonesia weakness.”

Investing strategy & portfolio construction (explicit framework)

Bro Andrew’s portfolio split (approx., as stated)

  • Real estate / property: 30%
    • Includes shophouse/land/villas.
    • Some property was bought during boom periods (notably Bali).
  • Fiat IDR / “RDPU deposits” (cash-like/deposit product): 25%
  • Gold bars (“Antam” mentioned): 15%
  • USD exposure: 10%
    • Described as “extra dollars” to handle IDR weakening.
  • Bitcoin: 10%
  • Other assets (cars/watches/remaining allocation): 10%
  • The allocation is said to total ~100%, though some parts appear mid-sentence in the subtitles.

Risk management / behavior rules

  • Rebalancing cadence: review roughly every ~2 months, and rebalance sooner if there’s meaningful movement.
  • Behavior during drawdowns
    • Drawdowns have an emotional cost; Bro Andrew treats not adding to risk as an “achievement.”
    • He frames outcomes with: he’s “already lucky” if he avoided buying at the wrong time, emphasizing discipline rather than chasing.
  • Investment size discipline
    • Core idea: keep the risky allocation small enough that it won’t distort business decision-making or cash-flow psychology.
    • Example: his ISG allocation is described as 50% into IDR and USD; a ~30% crash could affect how he feels during business meetings (risk of decision bias).

Emergency fund guidance

  • Target discussed: ~6 months of emergency runway.
  • Rationale: reduces fear so business decisions (meetings/expansion) can be made calmly.
  • Warning: if you fund expansion before building emergency savings, you can reach a point where you can’t pay employees.

Securities / instruments / tickers and products mentioned

  • Bitcoin (BTC): referenced for allocation and performance discussion.
  • “JCI”: Indonesia index mentioned (no ticker given).
  • BCA: repeatedly referenced as a brand/example; specific price points discussed in IDR:
    • ~8,900 average cost when bought
    • ~7,000 and 6,000 discussed during a “drop”
    • Mentions dividends conceptually, including “dividend time” as a trigger to buy again.
  • Antam: mentioned as the gold bars brand reference.
  • RDPU / deposit products and SBI / SRBI: discussed as interest-bearing instruments, though exact definitions are unclear in the subtitles.
    • Claim: RDPU moves up when interest rates rise.
    • Examples referenced for NAV-style behavior: could move down ~3% to 5%.
  • “Pegadaian” / PT Pegadaian: pawn-lending business context.
    • Key risk metric: LTV (loan-to-value).
    • Example risk scenario:
      • LTV ~90% described as “too close”
      • Gold value example: ~Rp3,000,000 → Rp2,350,000 over about a week, implying collateral might not cover the borrowed amount (loss scenario).
  • iPhone / cellphones: used as an analogy for pawn ticket size and collateral valuation changes.
    • Used cellphones reportedly +30% after price shifts.

IPO / corporate finance (business planning)

  • Discussion includes plans for a company related to “Indonesian GDA Center” / “Indonesian Gold Center” with a goal to go public in 2030.
  • Stated IPO motivation:
    • Better professional governance
    • More structured oversight
    • Easier handover beyond the owner
  • Valuation / mispricing theme:
    • Subtitles include confusing per-share language (e.g., “per 7,” “per 3,” “chasing 15–20”), but the core idea is to avoid IPO valuation traps.
    • There’s also a suggestion that sometimes a higher valuation may be needed for stability (exact details are unclear due to subtitle noise).

Company/business investments and operations (F&B and others)

  • Mentioned business investments include:
    • Dore sushi, Holy Wings, and other F&B/influencer/bootcamp-related ventures (names appear as transliterations, but F&B success is emphasized).
    • Sausage / “Big Farm” appears as another investment story (subtitle clarity is limited, but suggests a factory/sausage angle).
  • Investing criteria emphasized:
    • Don’t harm people (ethical screen)
    • Look for profitability and a defensible business model
  • Common entrepreneur mistakes (qualitative):
    • Not fully committed (“total commitment”)
    • Not knowing key business numbers (“counting”: A–Z including competitors’ capacity, profit, employee/operating metrics)
  • F&B operational benchmarks:
    • Difficulty curve:
      • Hard early (first 3–6 months), then manageable toward BEP (break-even)
      • BEP to “Kali Du” (next/second phase) described as the hardest
    • Emphasis on consistency and operations:
      • manage employees
      • cleanliness
      • service consistency

Explicit recommendations / cautions

  • Structure allocations so downturns don’t impair business judgment.
  • Rebalance systematically (about every 2 months).
  • Maintain an emergency fund (~6 months) before aggressive expansion.
  • In stock investing, avoid emotional “chasing” entries; rely on average cost/holding discipline (BCA example).
  • For pawn/loan business risk, monitor LTV tightly; too-high LTV (e.g., ~90%) is dangerous if collateral values fall.

Disclosures

  • No explicit “not financial advice” disclaimer appears in the provided subtitles.

Presenters / sources mentioned

  • Andrew Susanto (host/primary guest)
  • Leon / Koleon (interviewer/another participant; appears as “Leon” and “Koleon”)
  • OJK (Indonesian Financial Services Authority; mentioned as meeting context)
  • PT Pegadaian (company referenced in the discussion)

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