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Should You Buy Space X? | IPO Special

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Finance

Finance-focused summary (SpaceX IPO special)

Event / transaction basics

  • IPO timing: Expected to be listed by Friday, June 12 (speaker says “this Friday”); discussion dated Monday, June 8.
  • Capital raised: About $80B fresh capital (also referenced as $75B+).
  • Implied valuation / offer price:
    • Valuation: About $1.8T
    • Pricing: 555 million shares at $135/share (said “not expected to change”)
    • Float: “small float,” with claims of ~2x oversubscription
    • Estimated use of proceeds:
      • ~$20B to pay down debt
      • Remaining proceeds to heavy spending on:
        • Starship (next-gen rocket)
        • AI compute infrastructure
        • Data centers
  • Governance angle: Dual-class structure; Elon Musk holds ~80–85% of voting rights and controls board/leadership (Chairman, CEO, CTO), creating conflicts-of-interest risk concerns for institutions.

What the company does (investment “sum of the parts” framing)

Speakers describe SpaceX as three major business components:

  1. Space / launch (Falcon fleet)

    • Rockets mentioned: Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy
    • Launch services described as dominating the market (as stated)
    • Mission examples: NASA Artemis and International Space Station support; moon and later Mars roadmap
    • Thesis: Reusability reduces launch cost and acts as the moat enabling other segments.

  2. Connectivity: Starlink

    • Starlink described as the current profit engine and free-cash-flow contributor
    • Current scale cited:
      • 10 million+ subscribers
      • 10,000+ satellites on orbit
    • Growth depends on expanding constellation (regulatory + capacity):
      • Target mentioned: 15,000 satellites (subject to approvals)

  3. AI / “XAI” / compute

    • AI references include xAI, Grok, X AI (as described in the conversation)
    • Revenue risk: AI is described as burning the most cash and having highest uncertainty
    • Core long-term claim: vertically integrated “data + compute + edge in space” stack; satellites enable edge computing and potentially data centers in space.

Market/sector context & comps/tickers mentioned

  • Public “space” comps used for rerating:
    • Rocket Lab (spelled in subtitles as “Rocket Labs, Quanol Labs and obviously Voyager I mean…”)
    • Redwire
    • Planet Labs
  • Broader market benchmarks:
    • S&P 500
    • NASDAQ 100
    • Footsie 100 (context: valuation multiple comparison)
  • Tech/AI competition referenced:
    • OpenAI
    • Anthropic
  • Other tickers/companies referenced:
    • Google (noted as issuing a mandatory convertible; also discussed alongside a large tech-related capital raise)
    • “Mag 7” and Oracle (examples in market liquidity/cash-burn argument)
    • Meta (historical free cash flow vs later decline referenced)
  • Index-action note: SpaceX expected to enter NASDAQ 100 weeks after the IPO. Passive inflows may be influenced by small float, potentially driving near-term volatility (and possibly higher valuation).

Valuation and key numbers (bull vs bear framing)

“Back-of-the-envelope” valuation math (bear framing / risk)

  • Last-year revenues: $18B (SpaceX)
  • Implied multiple: ~100x price-to-revenue (backward-looking)
  • Comparisons:
    • S&P 500: ~3x price-to-revenue (near the top of historical range)
    • FTSE 100: ~1.3x price-to-revenue

Bull case arguments (Dan Ies, Wedbush)

  • TAM claim: SpaceX S-1 cites $28.5T total addressable market; AI dominates a large majority of that TAM (subtitles indicate “26T of the 28.5T” is AI).
  • Execution moat: SpaceX has cost advantages from:
    • High launch volume / economies of scale in rockets
    • Competitive Starlink unit economics (adding customers has low incremental cost once infrastructure exists)
  • Data centers in space timeframe: framed as likely in “2029/2030” (named as “realistic” by one guest). Debate framing ranged from “not a question of if, it’s when” (bull) to high uncertainty (bear note by another guest).

Bear case arguments (Nicholas Owens, Morningstar)

  • Morningstar bear valuation cited:
    • Fair value estimate: $780B
    • Below the implied $1.8T IPO valuation.
  • Why lower valuation: execution risk concentrated in the AI/data-center-in-space path.
  • Scenario/probability framework (DCF-style, bottoms-up):
    • Three AI outcomes with assigned probabilities:
      • Negative scenario: data centers in space don’t work
        • Probability: 43%
      • Base case: data centers work but not highly competitive vs terrestrial
        • Probability: 50%
      • Upside / moonshot: data centers in space are viable and commercially competitive
        • Probability: implied as remaining ~7%
  • Key cost/tech uncertainty: Starship reusability + scalability and satellite-based computing economics; Morningstar notes engineers will know more later.
  • Sum-of-parts baseline: Starlink + rockets valuation baseline consistently around $611B enterprise value (Morningstar internal baseline, per subtitles).
  • Upside valuation: reaches $154/share (stated), implying “Mars shots for free” under that scenario.

Liquidity/market impact and systemic risk (Larry McDonald, Bear Traps Report)

  • Claims bankers must use “polyianish” assumptions due to silos and deal dynamics (conflicts of interest).
  • Notes valuation scale vs GDP:
    • $1.8T referenced as ~6% of US GDP (as stated by speaker).
  • Argues liquidity constraints:
    • Mentions ~$8T in money market funds, but suggests not all is accessible (corporate vs retail capital mix).
  • Risk-off recommendation:

    Rotate out of the S&P 500 into S&P 500 equal weight or a more globally diversified equity portfolio to reduce exposure to “~50% technology.”

Step-by-step / methodology frameworks mentioned

  • Morningstar (Nicholas Owens) valuation approach (as described):
    • Uses a discounted cash flow (DCF) / bottoms-up method (not a simple multiple).
    • Breaks SpaceX into segments:
      • Rockets + Starlink treated as more reliable, assigned a baseline enterprise value
      • AI/data-center-in-space modeled via scenarios
    • Runs three AI/data-center scenarios with explicit probabilities:
      • failure / non-competitive base case / competitive upside
    • Option-like thinking informally: “other moonshots” are treated as free under upside scenario assumptions.

Key cautions / disclosures explicitly stated

  • Podcast disclaimer (repeated early and late):
    • General information only
    • Not financial promotion
    • Not investment advice / personal recommendation
  • Additional caution themes:
    • High uncertainty in AI and data centers in space
    • Governance/control risk due to dual-class voting dominance
    • Passive fund/index inclusion could cause near-term volatility
    • Potential broader market liquidity/valuation compression risk (Larry’s view)

Presenters / sources mentioned

  • Wilfred Frost (host)
  • Morgan Brennan (CNBC; Morning Call host; space lead reporter)
  • Dan Ies (Wedbush Securities)
  • Nicholas Owens (Morningstar)
  • Larry McDonald (Bear Traps Report; author)

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