REMOTE VIEWING | QUANTUM LEAP | TRUMP BREAKING THE SYSTEM W/ ELIZABETH APRIL EP. 45

Conversation Overview

Elizabeth April joins Maverick and Devon True for a wide-ranging conversation about remote viewing, paranormal experiences, quantum theory, timelines, and politics. The hosts often connect her stories to movies and games—“it’s always in the movies”—while April presents them as experiences and interpretations, not claims she can prove in every case.

Remote Viewing and Paranormal Experiences

April says she noticed unusual perceptions as a child, later learned to leave her body, and eventually trained in “scientific” or military-style remote viewing.

She recounts a dramatic early experience: before speaking at an alien conference, her website was hacked with a message reading “silence is golden.” Afterward, a man who identified himself as a channeler allegedly told her the NSA was responsible.

April also describes visiting an underground Antarctic base while remote viewing. She says she encountered what appeared to be genetic experiments and was forcibly ejected by a large figure. When she returned later, she claims, the base had been cleared out.

The hosts share paranormal memories of their own, including Devon’s childhood story about speaking to a deceased relative he had never met and a frightening vision of dead people reaching toward him. April explains how she sets boundaries around her experiences and says remote viewing takes intense concentration—she compares an hour of it to three hours of ordinary activity.

Consciousness, Quantum Ideas, and Reality

The conversation turns to April’s ideas about consciousness and quantum “uploading” and “downloading.” She shares two memorable anecdotes:

• She says she tried to remove chocolate poisoning from her dog, who later seemed fine—though the dog, she jokes, was “pooping tinsel.”
• She says she once drew sleepiness from the collective consciousness to help herself fall asleep.

April describes reality as a kind of video game that renders through observation. She suggests that small, unexpected choices can help people break out of habitual “autopilot” and shift their timelines.

Reality Glitches and Timelines

April recounts what she sees as possible reality glitches. A friend, she says, remembered a deep conversation with her husband that he insisted never happened. She also describes her young son counting five marbles when she thought she had only four—until a fifth appeared.

The hosts add stories of their own involving disappearing and reappearing scissors, keys, and a kitchen knife. These moments become a running theme: the group speculates that people may be experiencing different timelines, while April advises staying curious and less attached to routine.

Politics and the Future

In the final stretch, the discussion turns to Trump, political division, and the future. April characterizes Trump as a “bringer of chaos” whose role is to disrupt the old system rather than save it. She says remote viewing showed her a possible nuclear-war timeline for 2026, but stresses that future timelines are uncertain and not inevitable.

The hosts share their view that political chaos can create opportunities. The group repeatedly argues for observing both political sides without becoming emotionally locked into either one.

Personalities Appearing

• Elizabeth April — Guest; describes herself as a remote viewer and discusses spirituality, timelines, and quantum ideas.
• Maverick — Host of Maverick Approach.
• Devon True — Co-host; shares paranormal anecdotes and joins the discussion about politics and consciousness.