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WEBI'MARS Volet 3 L’eau à l’hôpital

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Main ideas & lessons (WebMARS Volet 3 — Water in hospitals)

Webinar purpose and structure

  • This is the 3rd and final webinar of WebMARS focused on water management in healthcare facilities.
  • Topics are split across three speakers, each covering a different angle of water hygiene and risk control.
  • The session includes:
    • live questions (oral via mic/hand-raise, and written via a question slot),
    • a replay for 2 months via SF2H newsletter (members only), then public on SF2H YouTube.

Speaker 1: Mr. Patrick Paris (Sanitary hot water network design & maintenance + Legionella / “cold water” risk handling)

A) Legionella risk: where it starts and why temperature control matters

  • Legionella risk is primarily linked to domestic hot water (DHW) systems.
  • Key principle:
    • Maintain DHW temperature in recirculation loops above 50°C.
    • This requirement is described in a November 2005 decree (as stated in the subtitles).
  • Preferred disinfection approach:
    • Continuous thermal disinfection is favored over chemical approaches because:
      • thermal methods avoid chemical-agent degradation of materials,
      • chemical disinfection (examples mentioned: sodium chloride, chlorine dioxide) can damage network materials.

B) Where Legionella contamination can originate (design/maintenance failures)

  • Contamination can occur upstream, especially:
    • water softeners, particularly pre-filters (contamination of filter media),
    • softener resins showing contamination.
  • Temperature constraints for components:
    • rooms housing equipment should remain below ~15°C (as claimed by the speaker) and avoid nearby heat sources.
    • inadequate ventilation/insulation leads to equipment temperature being too high, worsening risk.

C) DHW tank design and circulation problems

  • Common failures even when systems exist:
    • temperature stratification failures inside tanks (hot at the top, bottom becomes lukewarm),
    • “bottom return/recirculation not circulating” due to design choices → promotes bacterial growth.
  • Tank design matters:
    • the speaker stresses considering stratification (diagrams, return positioning) during design.

D) Heat production systems & required monitoring

  • System types mentioned:
    • heat exchangers and tank-based production.
  • Monitoring concepts (as stated):
    • primary lines (energy delivery temperatures),
    • secondary lines (contaminated/carrying water temperatures).
  • Secondary line monitoring referenced to Feb 1, 2010 decree:
    • monitoring at supply/return points and within tanks (if present).

E) Design flaws to eliminate (high risk due to mixing)

The speaker provides multiple “eliminate/replace” recommendations:

  • Remove mixing valves on hot water outlets:
    • mixing valves are described as unacceptable due to Legionella risk.
  • Eliminate mixer taps at terminal points:
    • “mixing should be eliminated”;
    • even shower supply systems should avoid mixing arrangements where risk can occur.
  • Avoid inaccessible pipe sections:
    • networks embedded under slabs (hard to maintain/inspect) are flagged as unacceptable, including worker-safety and difficulty of corrective action.

F) Scaling & corrosion: mitigation through water preparation and material choice

  • Reduce scaling by softening DHW:
    • target softening around 8–10 French degrees (further reducing corrosion risk).
  • Corrosion issues relate to:
    • unsuitable pipe materials and aging/obsolescence.
  • Solution direction:
    • replace networks with suitable modern materials (examples mentioned: copper, PVC, multilayer pipes).

G) Recirculation loop balancing: preventing return temps dropping under thresholds

  • Balancing governed by Nov 30, 2005 decree (as cited).
  • Observed problems:
    • lack of installed balancing devices,
    • balancing systems failing → return temperatures below 52°C (risk on return lines).
  • Practical method:
    • use balancing valves that allow measurement of:
      • flow and temperature at measuring ports (without intrusive shutdown).
    • ensure accessibility (height/duct planning) to allow maintenance and monitoring.
  • Annual checks:
    • example “balancing plan” and statement that loop temperatures should be verified yearly.

H) Additional Legionella risk points in practice

  • Degassers (air vents) at risers:
    • must be maintained/used correctly to vent released air; otherwise recirculation can fail.
  • Insulation failures:
    • lead to energy loss and temperature dropping below thresholds → Legionella risk.

I) Accessibility + monitoring via building management systems (BMS)

  • Strong emphasis:
    • ensure access panels are removable and adequately sized.
    • poor accessibility increases risk because networks can’t be inspected/maintained properly.
  • Use of BMS:
    • example given (Cochin Hospital): continuous tracking of domestic hot water return temperatures.

Speaker 1 (continued): Cold water and “biophilia” (biofilm prevention rather than total eradication)

A) Key concept: cold water contamination is about biofilms

  • “We can’t eradicate biophiles” in cold water.
  • Strategy:
    • limit biofilm development,
    • control conditions that allow growth and thickening.

B) Target organisms/thresholds (as described)

  • Targets in cold water:
    • flora at 22°C: target < 100 CFU/mL (as stated),
    • flora at 36°C: target < 10 CFU/mL (described as most difficult),
    • Pseudomonas:
      • assessed under 22–36°C conditions,
      • coliforms should be very low; significant coliform presence suggests localized contamination.
  • Thresholds are framed as targets rather than only “pass/fail.”

C) Primary sources of contamination

  • Sources:
    • hands during use (especially with aerators),
    • contamination during pipe installation,
    • soil-related contamination.
  • Risk locations/equipment:
    • sinks, treatment stations, showers.
  • Shower heads:
    • require cleanliness (examples of unacceptable vs acceptable fixtures).

D) Terminal areas: maintenance is decisive

  • Operating rooms (as mentioned):
    • terminal filters can reduce germ risk when correctly installed.
  • Focus for “terminal parts” maintenance:
    • aerators, nozzles, end devices; cleaning/disinfection.

E) Maintenance interventions and procedures (structured “how-to”)

  • Cleaning/disinfection of terminal water points (without full dismantling):
    • Clean regularly (minimum weekly for certain terminal points, as stated).
    • Use products proven effective against target bacteria (verify with supplier).
    • Avoid assuming chemical disinfection always works; effectiveness varies and recurring issues can occur.
  • Constraints on disinfection:
    • terminal parts are often not designed to tolerate chemical/thermal decontamination.
    • if chemical/thermal approaches are insufficient:
      • add injection/bridging points under sinks (hot/cold bridging), or
      • replace faucets (financially suboptimal but sometimes adopted).
  • Traceability and evidence:
    • establish documented procedures:
      • how actions are done,
      • who does them,
    • store documents in the facility health record for evidence and response.
  • Thermal disinfection caution:
    • avoid overly long contact times because materials in contact can be damaged.

F) Water-point usage prevention (reduce stagnation)

  • Recommendation:
    • draw water from all points at least every two days.
  • If points aren’t used at full flow:
    • flush/let run for ~4 minutes (mixed or cold as described).
  • Regular flushing reduces biofilm and improves test results.

G) Design for new/renovated networks

  • Principles:
    • keep the network simple (planning phases such as APS/APD/PRO referenced before execution),
    • avoid complex networks that are hard to balance and maintain,
    • avoid unnecessary thermostatic mixers:
      • choose simpler taps if thermostatic control isn’t needed,
    • ensure accessibility from the outset,
    • plan for unused outlets (simulate use via flushing).

Speaker 2: Dr. Didier Lecointe (Legionella risk management “in practice” — monitoring, diagnosis, crisis response, investigations)

A) Legionella biology and why water systems create risk

  • Legionella:
    • described as Gram-negative aquatic-adapted bacterium in rivers/lakes/mud.
  • Temperature effects (as described):
    • multiplication often between ~25–45°C,
    • reduced survival at >50°C,
    • quick activation around ~60°C (as stated).
  • VBNC-like state (dormant/undetectable):
    • disinfectants may not eliminate it effectively,
    • can create false negative cultures.

B) Reservoir and transmission mechanisms

  • Legionella linked to biofilms and free-living aquatic organisms:
    • biofilms act as reservoirs,
    • spread occurs when conditions allow.
  • Water networks create “stagnation zones”:
    • complex production/distribution creates areas favoring biofilm growth.
  • Healthcare aerosolization risks:
    • showers and rehabilitation baths are cited as key aerosol generators without single-use mitigation.

C) Clinical considerations: Legionnaires’ disease and Pontiac fever

  • Pontiac fever:
    • described as a benign flu-like syndrome.
  • Legionnaires’ disease:
    • pneumonia with potentially fatal outcomes.
  • Diagnostic challenges:
    • urinary antigen testing is specific but not fully exclusionary,
    • urinary antigen can remain positive for months → complicates attribution window,
    • respiratory samples are needed to obtain clinical strain for comparison with environmental strains.

D) Regulatory framework (texts to know)

Dr. Lecointe highlights key French texts (as cited):

  • Circular April 22, 2002
  • Decree Feb 1, 2010
  • Circular Dec 21, 2010
  • These are presented as the core monitoring/compliance rules; later texts refine or apply them for public-facing facilities.

E) Core prevention methodology (monitoring + sampling + network design)

1) Temperature monitoring (DHW loop principles)

  • Monitor DHW temperature (preferably continuous).
  • Targets described:
    • 55°C at loop start,

    • ≤5°C difference with return,
    • 50°C at points of use.

2) Periodic Legionella analysis

  • Enumeration of Legionella with counts aimed to remain low CFU/L (as stated for general and high-risk settings).
  • Sampling must follow standards and accreditation requirements.

3) Network design recommendations

  • Keep loop sizes as small as possible:
    • smaller loops are easier to balance.
  • Ensure correct balancing and distribution.
  • Prefer plate heat exchangers (as stated).

4) Terminal point upkeep

  • Before crisis:
    • disinfect faucets/showerheads by flushing hot water,
    • ensure >52°C for effective flushing (as stated),
    • systematic descaling.

5) Sampling plan principles

  • Sampling should be representative and risk-informed:
    • include disadvantaged/most at-risk points,
    • include points in high-risk departments,
    • include recently installed/renovated areas.
  • Include return-flow considerations as described.

F) Crisis management (“when threshold exceeded”)

Corrective steps outlined like a procedure:

  • First step: investigate and act on the network
    • global thermal disinfection:
      • 70°C after flushing entire network,

      • flush at sufficient velocity (as stated).
    • if feasible:
      • use biocides locally where appropriate.
  • Terminal interventions
    • terminal filtration if disinfection at points of use isn’t feasible.
    • change/renew:
      • “filters” at fixtures (freeze shields mentioned),
      • flexible hoses.
    • reinforce:
      • hot water flushing,
      • descaling.
  • Verification
    • run a control sampling campaign about 8 weeks later (as stated),
    • ensure results return to normal; if not, repeat corrective measures.

G) Investigation case examples (why strain matching matters)

  • Cases where home water was source:
    • clinical strain matched environmental strain in home hot water tank.
  • Cases where assumptions were wrong:
    • municipality source suspected, but ARS network findings didn’t match the identified strain.
  • Emphasis:
    • comparing clinical strain to environmental strain using proper respiratory sampling is crucial for attribution.

H) Key “limitations of testing” messages

  • False negatives can occur due to VBNC-like states.
  • Urinary antigen tests must be interpreted carefully.
  • Respiratory samples are essential to obtain clinical strains.

Speaker 3: Ms. Céline Cioti (Water controls in healthcare: categorization Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4; practical sampling and routine monitoring)

A) Water classification and where it fits

Using a 2005 healthcare water guide framework (as stated):

  • Q1: water undergoing no treatment
    • Q1 (incoming at entry) and Q1b (point of use).
  • Q2: water that undergoes treatment
    • includes treated bacteriological waters (SS), hot water, swimming pool water, hemodialysis-related waters, etc.
  • Other categories are referenced, but the focus is mainly on Q1/Q2.

B) Q1 controls: potability and frequency

  • Q1 water:
    • potability criteria linked to the Public Health Code article (as stated).
  • Monitoring approaches:
    • incoming water monitored by municipality/distribution company,
    • at point of use:
      • recommended assessment frequency described as roughly 1 assessment/year per 100 beds, minimum 4/year (as stated).

C) Q1 microbiological quality: targets and action levels

  • Targets referenced:
    • flora at 22°C and 36°C thresholds (with CFU/L or CFU/mL framing).
  • Action logic:
    • if values deviate significantly (example concept: ~10x ratio), corrective action is triggered.
  • Additional tests:
    • coliforms and Pseudomonas aeruginosa.

D) Sampling frequency and practical monitoring plan

  • No single strict regulation frequency was claimed; guide suggests quarterly.
  • Example practice:
    • test all care stations at least once per year,
    • add representative shower sampling in high-risk departments,
    • distribute sampling across the year to avoid overloading labs.

E) Q2 treated waters: what is tested depending on treatment type

  • Treated bacteriological controlled waters (SS):
    • often tested for reversible flora at 22°C and Pseudomonas (as described).
    • when using single-use filters, microbiological testing may not be necessary except in specific regulatory cases (example mentioned: endoscope washer/disinfector final rinse water → quarterly testing).
  • Hot water (Legionella risk):
    • reserved for hygiene/equipment maintenance; not for preparing drinks/food.

F) Swimming pool & aerosol risk management

  • No Legionella testing in pool water itself, but in shower water (aerosolized risk).
  • Pool disinfection logic:
    • monthly frequency, morning before sessions begin when no one is present.
  • Elderly whirlpool/rehabilitation sessions:
    • monthly morning testing and disinfection due to aerosols.

G) Hemodialysis and specialized water

  • Multiple circulars referenced for dialysis water control (as named):
    • Jan 30, 2007 and June 20, 2000 (as stated).
  • Sampling targets depend on technique:
    • conventional hemodialysis vs diafiltration (described as needing different sampling points and CFU expectations).
  • Add endotoxin testing in purified/ultrapure systems.

H) Purified/highly purified pharmaceutical waters

  • Intended for medicine preparation per European Pharmacopoeia.
  • Often produced by reverse osmosis.
  • Responsibility for sampling frequency shifts to the producer (as described).

I) Drinking-water coolers (refrigerated fountains)

Pros

  • available 24/7
  • less waste than bottled water

Cons

  • maintenance complexity:
    • descaling and daily upkeep responsibilities must be clearly defined (to avoid “not my job” gaps).
  • Include these systems in drinking water campaigns and possibly Legionella campaigns where aspiration risk exists.

Advice

  • prioritize fountains with:
    • reservoir-free,
    • carbon-filter-free,
    • automatic purging,
    • non-return valve.

J) Study: tap water vs bottled water microbiological quality

  • Study design (as described):
    • PCA incubation at 30°C for 72 hours,
    • identification using methods mentioned.
  • Results summary:
    • bottled spring/crystal-clear sources had higher mesophilic flora frequency than tap water,
    • pathogens were detected in some bottled samples, while tap water showed fewer problems.
  • Conclusion:
    • tap water network quality presented as superior to some bottled sources in their region,
    • also notes logistical costs if bottled water is stopped (chilling equipment, containers, etc.),
    • encourages rationalized controls and risk-based testing.

K) Q&A themes (filters, sampling points, flushing, disinfection frequency)

  • Sink filters (oncology and surgical troughs):
    • recommend risk analysis and sampling; not automatically for all points.
    • for surgical handwashing: may not require bacteriologically controlled water/filters, but remove filters if they are not maintained.
  • Sample domestic water heaters:
    • only in specific contexts (e.g., on-call rooms, accommodations).
  • Flushing during work:
    • emphasizes controlling water quality and maintaining traceability.
  • Automatic flushing taps vs manual flushing:
    • preference for structured frequent purging (e.g., every two days) over leaving systems dripping.
  • Mixed vs cold purging:
    • “purging is purging” (volume renewal) rather than thermal disinfection.
    • time depends on branch length and layout; “4 minutes” tied to an 8-meter branch renewal logic.
  • Disinfection at point of use:
    • start with descaling and remove/replace broken/aerator-related components.
    • vinegar (acetic acid) suggested for descaling where appropriate.
    • thermal disinfection used selectively (example: boiling water for ~1 hour for contaminated points).
  • Chlorine dioxide and oxidants:
    • cautious use; preference for temperature-based control.
    • continuous chlorine dioxide debated as potentially damaging network materials.
  • Dead legs:
    • keep them as short as possible; avoid stagnant segments.

L) Decree update controversy (Dec 30, 2022, sampling standard references)

  • Discussion about inconsistencies between older standards (e.g., FDT/FDT 8522) and the decree.

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