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2024 11 20 Дмитрий Залялетдинов МК
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High-level summary
- Presenter: Dmitriy (Dima) Zalyaletdinov.
- Topic: a practical trading playbook for detecting and trading against algorithmic “robots” in illiquid Russian-equity markets using three volume-related indicators in the Vatagi terminal:
- raw volume,
- BIS (bid/ask separated prints — “second bid”),
- communicative Delta.
- Emphasis: detect recurring robot prints, estimate their timing and volume, size entries, manage risk, and exploit micro-inefficiencies. Several live case studies (Bashneft, DME, Tower, etc.) illustrate rules and failure modes.
Frameworks, playbooks, and processes
Robot-detection and execution playbook (step-by-step)
- Monitor BIS to see per-side prints and repeating timing patterns.
- Identify a recurring print interval (typical robots ~12–13 seconds) and use that “timer” for predictability.
- Confirm the pattern with 3–6 sequential prints to rule out imitators or coincidence.
- Submit successive orders:
- First order to get exposure.
- Follow-ups sized by how much you can “swallow” (liquidity tolerance).
- Reduce exposure after the very first impulse (e.g., keep half) to limit tail risk.
- Use communicative Delta to compute net long/short accumulation during the robot run and to estimate squeeze risk.
- After the robot peak, wait for the impulse to pass before covering or re-entering; prefer limit orders for opportunistic fills.
Sizing and pyramid method (risk-managed scaling)
- Start small: 2–4 lots (open 2 lots, take profit on one, hold the other).
- If prints continue in your favor, add increments (e.g., +2–4 lots) as the average price becomes favorable.
- Control the number of pyramids and total exposure based on historical drawdowns and liquidity tolerance.
- Reduce exposure after initial impulses to protect against sudden takeouts.
Using multiple indicators together
- Raw volume: detect relative volume/liquidity.
- BIS: identify side-specific timing and robot-print signatures.
- Communicative Delta: estimate cumulative net position accumulation during impulses/breakouts.
Anti-impostor test
- Check second-level timing consistency: true robots are highly regular; manual imitators show inconsistent intervals.
- Cross-check BIS timing with the order book (glass) and across multiple instruments/correlators.
- Require repeated identical lot sizes and precise timing before assuming a robot.
Key metrics, KPIs, and measurable signals
- Typical robot print interval: ~12–13 seconds.
- Communicative Delta example: 32,000 over 117 seconds (used to estimate net lots on one side).
- Common single-print lot sizes observed as signatures: 500 lots, 600 lots, 25 lots, 20 lots, 5 lots, 2–4 lots (trader entry examples).
- Robot splitting behavior: e.g., robot buys half of an incoming order (if you place 10 lots, robot buys 5).
- Practical cautions: avoid pouring >500 lots into instruments like Tower.
- Example breakout measurement: 6,915 lots identified as a buyback/shoot window.
- Operational KPI: test strategy performance net of commission — small gains can be wiped out by fees.
Concrete examples and case studies
- Bashneft
- Robot prints visible only on Bashneft; turned on at 78 every 12s, then stopped later.
- Lesson: single-instrument signals can be false positives; always cross-check.
- Robot that splits orders
- Observed deterministic behavior (e.g., buys exactly half of an incoming order) — exploitable once identified.
- DME and other ticks
- Instances of two robots working in opposite directions, allowing simple open-and-close profit cycles.
- Large short-throw example
- Teammates observed a ~500-lot short throw followed by stealth buy-off from a robot — an inefficiency that produced straightforward gains.
- Communicative Delta use
- Used to quantify position build-up during robot activation and to select safe entry points on rollbacks.
Actionable recommendations and tactics
- Always display these indicators on your workspace:
- Raw volume, BIS, and communicative Delta.
- Corroborate BIS signals with the order book (glass): watch for repeated densities and lot sizes.
- Entry sizing:
- Use small starter lots (2–4) and pyramid only if prints continue in your favor.
- Size entries by how much you can swallow and by observed robot strength.
- Risk controls:
- After the first impulse, keep at most half exposure to limit takeout risk.
- Be prepared to exit quickly if you cannot liquidate in a panic — better to exit early.
- Always include commission in backtests; commission can erase micro-profits.
- Use cross-instrument correlation:
- Monitor indices, currencies, and heavyweight papers (Sber, Gazprom) as correlators and drivers.
- Divergence among correlators (e.g., during special events) can create exploitable inefficiencies.
- Screening vs eyeballing:
- Screeners may miss seconds/milliseconds-level robot behavior; live quote scanning + BIS visual confirmation is preferred.
- Distinguishing real robots:
- Look for consistent per-second timing and repeated precise lot sizes.
- Check multiple instruments and order-book patterns for confirmation.
Operational and organizational notes
- Tools and terminal:
- Vatagi terminal highlighted for BIS and communicative Delta views.
- Workspace setup:
- Multi-monitor layout with BIS, minute charts, and order book visible; real-time scanning of quotes and correlators.
- Team workflow:
- Collaborative detection (team members and interns share screenshots and patterns).
- Maintain a trading diary and analyze historical liquidity and robot behavior.
- Practical warnings:
- Illiquid papers often have transparent books (participant names and exact sizes visible) — can be exploited but increases tail risk.
- As more traders adopt robot-detection, edge compression and crowding risks grow.
Limitations, failure modes, and cautions
- False positives: single-instrument prints can be imitators or lag artifacts — always verify timing and cross-instrument signals.
- Liquidity and panic risk: simultaneous exits can overwhelm robots/market-makers and produce large adverse moves.
- Commission drag: frequent small trades accumulate fees that can nullify gains.
- Market evolution: widespread adoption of the same signals reduces future effectiveness — be conservative when scaling.
Presenters and sources
- Main presenter: Dmitriy (Dima) Zalyaletdinov.
- Contributor referenced: Albert (intern).
- Tool: Vatagi terminal.
- Markets/instruments referenced: Moscow Exchange and multiple Russian tickers (Bashneft, DME, Tower, Sber, Gazprom, Beluga, Segezha).
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