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Dr Juliette Engle | Mkultra Under Disneyland, Sex Magick & SRA, Groomed for Power
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Overview
This interview for Forbidden Knowledge News is hosted by Chris Matthew and features Dr. Juliette Engel, an author and self-described survivor of the CIA’s Monarch/MK Ultra program. Engel argues that MK Ultra did not end when the CIA claims it stopped, and that related mind-control and child-abuse networks continued and modernized into other institutions.
Main claims and narrative points
MK Ultra origins and expansion (post-WWII)
Engel argues that MK Ultra drew on Nazi human-experimentation expertise after World War II, including the recruitment of scientists she describes as “paperclip”-style. She claims the program expanded rapidly from a CIA–Nazi scientific core into many U.S. sites, producing extensive child “mind control” operations.
Her own induction and childhood placement
Engel says she was taken into the program as a child, stating she entered “in 1955 when I was 6.” She describes being:
- Drugged
- Sexually abused as part of initiation
- Sold into the program, claiming her father participated
She emphasizes trauma, disassociation, and attachment loss as tools for control.
“Annexes” and schooling as dual-track conditioning
Engel describes a recurring pattern in which children alternated between:
- Normal school
- CIA-run “safe houses” / annexes
She claims the annexes had staff she names in her account, such as:
- A “Dr. Green” (described with a German accent)
- “Dr. White” as her handler/torturer
Satanic ritual abuse / occult framing (as she experienced it)
Engel asserts the program used “satanic ritual abuse” not merely as fear theater, but because participants allegedly “really believe” in the ideology. She also connects this to a broader historical arc she attributes to Nazi occult research and mystical experimentation.
Ritual mechanisms and the “soul” concept (child-focused programming)
Engel repeatedly frames the process as “soul extraction” and identity manipulation. She describes induction-like rituals, including a spinning “wheel” and chanting, intended to dissociate children and strip identity. She also references imagery such as “green smoke” to represent the release of the soul.
Genocide, “goats and sheep,” and curriculum themes
Engel claims children were taught in a genocidal framework. She describes:
- Notes/predictions she says she made that a “black race” would be wiped out by 1982
- Ideological training where select children are portrayed as “goats” destined to lead, while others are said to die
Sex magic as “projected sexuality”
Engel defines “sex magic” (as linked to Crowley in her account) as weaponized sexual coercion—“projecting sexuality” to manipulate others. She gives a Disneyland example, claiming she was used to “find a daddy” for sexual compromise in front of cameras.
Other curriculum components she names
She mentions additional “curriculum” themes she says were taught across different annexes, including:
- Ariosophy (as she describes it: “Aryan” breeding/elite search)
- Cybernetics (humans modeled toward being/computing with machines)
- Genocide
- Seduction-type programming
Her “escape” from the program (age 17)
Engel claims she escaped around age 17 by leveraging an opportunity during a retreat-like period. She describes logistics involving Charles Manson, and says drugs were used to compromise others. She claims she fled without ID or shoes, drove north, and later accessed college support—especially after losing the music-related aspects of her identity, which she portrays as necessary for reducing triggers.
Epstein connection (as described by Engel)
Meeting Jeffrey Epstein in 1988
Engel claims she met Jeffrey Epstein (and possibly his associates, including someone she calls possibly Mark Epstein) in 1988. She describes this as a continuation of the same networks/programs rather than a separate “era” that had ended earlier.
Purported technical request
She says Epstein’s group attempted to recruit her for a project involving transmitting hidden information under the guise of medical reports, linking it to her claimed background in analog-to-digital methods and ultrasound/radiology research.
Russia and “Angel Coalition” anti-trafficking work
Underground railroad-style rescue network (1990–20 years)
After escaping, Engel says she became a physician and moved to Russia around 1990 to found the Angel Coalition. She describes it as an underground network rescuing trafficked children and working through maternity hospitals and orphanages.
Scale and methods (as she reports)
She claims that over more than 20 years, she helped document/rescue 70,000 children, using training and international coordination, including partners and law enforcement across multiple countries.
Alleged evidence of child deaths on trafficking routes
Engel recounts authorities allegedly showing her Polaroid pictures of children’s faces that were dead. She says that event prompted her investigations and case openings, which she frames as trauma and “survivor’s guilt” driving activism.
“Deep state” and modern continuation (in her view)
Senior Executive Service / corporate capture
Engel claims that after MK Ultra’s supposed end, power reconstituted through the Senior Executive Service, leading to “deep state” influence across government agencies, corporations, and especially education.
“GATE program” in schools
She asserts a gifted/talented-type program (“GATE”) exists widely and begins sessions with drugs, describing this as part of ongoing child conditioning.
War and “harvesting” children
Engel connects major conflicts (such as Russia–Ukraine, as described) to the targeting of specific populations and the “harvesting” of children.
Deprogramming and agency
Engel argues the key barrier to resistance is belief in elite omnipotence. She says deprogramming is possible and that communities can protect children via grassroots/local information networks rather than waiting for top-down institutions.
Overall tone and message
The interview blends personal testimony with a conspiracy-oriented framework, connecting:
- Nazi occult research → CIA MK Ultra
- Modern “education/tech/deep state” conditioning
- Trafficking networks and elite reward systems
Engel’s central takeaway is that people can “undo programming” once the illusion of total control is broken.
Presenters / contributors
- Chris Matthew — host/presenter (Forbidden Knowledge News)
- Dr. Juliette Engel — guest/interview subject, author and self-described survivor