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Lagi-lagi Pembantu Prabowo Mundur, Gubernur BI, Mau Bersih-bersih Agen Washington?
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The video is a panel discussion reacting to repeated resignations in Indonesia’s economic and financial institutions. The most prominent is the (auto-captioned) resignation of Bank Indonesia’s governor “Peri/Perry.” The panel also references earlier resignations from OJK, Bank Indonesia/Bursa-linked leadership, and a finance minister replacement.
The central question is whether these departures reflect political pressure that would violate Bank Indonesia’s legal independence—and whether Indonesia can adjust monetary policy and fiscal–monetary coordination amid global shifts away from the “Washington Consensus.”
1) Washington Consensus is questioned; global conditions have changed
- The speakers argue the Washington Consensus framework (associated with the U.S. and emphasized during Indonesia’s New Order/early reform era) worked under different global conditions—especially accelerated globalization and external “sponsors.”
- They claim the original assumptions behind it have weakened due to:
- the Trump/MAGA era, and
- broader trends toward “deglobalization” and geopolitical risk.
- As a result, the older belief that open trade automatically benefits everyone is treated as less reliable.
- With the “sponsor” (Washington/U.S.) no longer fully aligned, the “deep state”/“Washington-backed” framing is considered less convincing, implying Indonesia should reassess what “orthodoxy” actually means now.
2) Monetary policy “orthodoxy” is under global revision; Indonesia needs unity
- The panel argues the world is revising how monetary policy is understood, so Indonesia must also shift its mindset regarding how fiscal and monetary policy interact.
- They state that under “Governor Peri” and Finance Minister “Purbaya,” the key issue was a lack of “unity/coordination,” which created market friction—described as:
- “smoke you can’t see but smells” (sentiment pressure appearing before it shows up in data).
- They emphasize that any reorientation must be clearly communicated to avoid additional uncertainty.
3) Bank Indonesia independence and the “cardinal sin”: failing rupiah stability
- The discussion returns to Bank Indonesia’s mandate: maintaining the value/stability of the rupiah, as grounded in Bank Indonesia Law (as described by the panel).
- They argue legal independence is required; if BI leadership is afraid of the President or yields to political/business pressure, it would breach the law.
- The panel frames the “cardinal sin” as not independence itself, but failing to keep the rupiah stable—especially considering the rupiah’s long-term depreciation trend.
- They also note that “stability” can be subjective from an expectations standpoint:
- even moderate depreciation rates (e.g., 5–7%) may be seen as failure depending on market expectations.
4) Debate over what “solution” should look like (currency board vs independent central bank, bullion ideas)
The panel contrasts multiple policy models:
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Washington-influenced approach
- An independent central bank
- Inflation-targeting / monetary stabilization emphasis
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Currency board (alternative model)
- Referenced as historically attractive for credibility and stability (Singapore is cited).
- The panel argues currency board constraints can:
- strengthen credibility, but
- “imprison” monetary flexibility and introduce distributional/political constraints in Indonesia.
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Bullion/commodity-backed idea
- A “bullion bank” concept using gold reserves to bolster confidence.
- The video claims Indonesia’s gold reserves are very large and discusses potential ways reserves could be increased.
Overall, the panel does not fully reject the independent central bank path, but suggests Indonesia may need a hybrid approach or stronger, better-resourced credibility strategy.
5) Why the resignations happened is “unclear,” but the market needs immediate direction
- The panel repeatedly says they are not competent to identify the exact reason the governor (and others) stepped down.
- Still, they suggest likely links such as:
- misalignment between BI policy/communication and the government’s “constitutional economics” ideology, and/or
- lack of coordination and trust, creating uncertainty in markets (“no foreplay,” sudden moves).
- They predict the immediate priority after leadership changes is:
- rapid selection/appointment of a new BI governor who can credibly steer policy and communicate with the market.
- Since markets are forward-looking (discounting future outcomes), delays or poor communication can damage confidence.
6) “Deep state” framing is treated as partly myth; the key is capacity and execution
- One speaker suggests “deep state”/“hidden power” narratives function as political language used by the President rather than a neutral analytic framework.
- The more important variable, they argue, is whether institutions and government bureaucracy have the capacity to execute:
- they compare Indonesia with China and Singapore, cited as having stronger state-directed capacity and execution ability.
- They stress Indonesia’s coalition structure lacks absolute power, which can sharpen internal friction and competition—affecting policy consistency.
7) Speculation on successor traits (especially “someone who can say no”)
Near the end, the panel shifts to candidate profiles for BI governor:
- They insist BI leadership must be brave enough to “say no” to political pressure while still operating within the law and pursuing the rupiah stability mandate.
- They mention “Yonan” (spelled inconsistently as Yonan/Jonanan in captions) as someone who can credibly “dare to say no.”
- The discussion also includes other potential names, such as:
- Agus Marto (and “Agus Martok” in captions)
- Destri (and “Mrs. Destri” in captions), described as a possible “middle way”
Concluding emphasis:
- BI’s job is framed not only as managing inflation, but also as how monetary policy affects integration of people into formal economic/legal systems (employment/inclusion referenced as part of the mandate framing).
Presenters / contributors (as mentioned in subtitles)
- Mas Bambang
- Mas BM (referenced repeatedly)
- Fahrul
- Bang Fahrul
- Dede / Bang Dede
- Uncle BHM
- Budi / Budi di Putro
- Budi Mas
- Dinda
- Yonan
- Agus Marto / Agus Martok
- Destri / Mrs. Destri
- Prabowo (discussed; not as a panelist)
- Jokowi (discussed)
- Sri Mulyani (discussed)
- Erdogan (discussed; international reference)