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Altersvorsorgedepot 2027: Lohnt es sich für DICH? (inkl. Rechner)
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Key takeaways
Finance-focused summary (AVD “Altersvorsorgedepot” launching 1 Jan 2027)
What it is
- AVD (old-age pension account / retirement savings account) is scheduled to start on January 1, 2027.
- A state-supported investment account, funded via bonuses and tax deductions.
- Two AVD “ETF solutions”:
- Self-managed (self-directed) depot: you choose the ETFs/funds yourself, subject to a maximum risk class.
- Standard depot: you must use exactly two ETFs/funds selected by the provider (example shown: government bond ETF + global stock ETF, one lower-risk and one higher-risk).
- Restrictions: no individual stocks, cryptocurrencies, or leveraged ETFs.
Key funding components (bonuses / tax benefits)
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Allowance (bonus on contributions)
- First €360/year (i.e., €30/month) receives a 50% subsidy.
- Additional contributions up to €1,800/year earn an extra 25% bonus on the portion between €360 and €1,800.
- Implied maximum allowance: €540/year (at €150/month contributions).
- Minimum deposit: €120/year (€10/month).
- Child allowance: up to €300/year per eligible child.
- Example mechanics: payment is effectively doubled per child up to €300 max.
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Tax deduction of contributions + allowances
- Both your deposits and the allowances are deductible from taxable income.
- Stated maximum for deductibility: €1,800/year + allowances.
- Important detail: the bonus allowance and tax refund do not arrive fully in parallel.
- The allowance is deducted first from the tax refund, meaning you receive only the difference.
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No capital gains tax during the holding period
- During the savings phase and later in the payout phase, the account avoids capital gains tax (no advance tax on reallocations/liquidations).
Core decision framework (4 “levers”)
Whether AVD is worthwhile versus a normal ETF savings plan depends on:
1) Tax in retirement (payout phase)
- Payouts are taxed at your personal income tax rate on the entire account balance (deposits + allowances + returns).
- By contrast, an ETF savings plan typically taxes only profits via capital gains tax.
- Key caution:
- If your tax rate in retirement is lower than today → AVD can outperform.
- If it’s higher → the advantage can reverse.
- Nuance: payouts can increase your marginal tax rate, because payouts add to taxable income.
2) Child allowance
- The child allowance (up to €300/year per child) can materially improve the outcome.
- The calculator illustration indicates that more children increases the AVD benefit.
3) Costs
- Major uncertainty: provider fees and product costs.
- Standard depot:
- Cost cap: 1% effective costs
- Includes ETF TR (total return / running costs as described).
- Self-managed depot:
- No legal cost cap mentioned.
- Expected cost ranges (as stated):
- Some brokers may be free of charge
- Neo-brokers / direct banks: up to 0.5% per year
- Savings/cooperative banks: usually higher
- Calculator message:
- Higher AVD costs reduce or eliminate the advantage.
- With certain inputs, AVD can still be worthwhile even near 1%, but not necessarily across all assumptions.
4) Flexibility / access to capital
- Unlike an ETF savings plan, you generally cannot freely withdraw AVD assets.
- Mandatory payout structure:
- Payout can start earliest at age 65 (or earlier if you already qualify for statutory pension).
- Must start latest by age 70.
- Payouts must continue at least until age 85.
- Distribution is monthly, with the monthly amount recalculated at least every 3 years based on the remaining balance and market performance.
- One-off option:
- You can withdraw up to 30% as a lump sum at retirement start.
- Warning: this can cause a “tax shock” because the lump sum increases income and taxes.
- Early termination:
- If you cancel, you generally must repay allowances and tax refunds.
Calculator / scenario inputs mentioned (performance & assumptions)
In the demonstration, AVD is compared to a regular ETF savings plan with example parameters:
- Income today: €50,000
- Income in retirement: €20,000
- Assumed ETF return (savings phase): 6%
- Assumed payout-phase return: 3%
- Assumed AVD costs (default): 0.2%
- Sensitivity effects noted:
- Lower/higher income in savings changes the value of tax deductions and can widen/narrow the gap.
- Lower/higher income in retirement can make the regular ETF plan overtake AVD (or the reverse).
- Adding children increases AVD relative benefit.
- Increasing costs can make AVD less worthwhile; the ETF plan can overtake if AVD costs rise.
Explicit recommendation on timing
- Do not “rush” to register immediately, especially via waiting lists or product hype.
- Reasons given:
- AVD opens no earlier than 1 Jan 2027 (early registration provides no advantage).
- Some providers may not be ready at launch.
- Switching providers later may be possible, but fees up to €150 may apply during the first 5 years.
- Expect a wave of high-cost “white-label ETF” offerings with unfavorable fee structures at launch; waiting may improve your choice.
Extracted instruments / categories
- ETFs / funds
- Example types mentioned:
- Government bond ETF (lower-risk sleeve in the standard depot example)
- Global stock market ETF (higher-risk sleeve in the standard depot example)
- No individual stocks
- No cryptocurrencies
- No leveraged ETFs
- Mentions: insurance companies for “guarantee products” (not analyzed in detail here)
Key numbers & thresholds (consolidated)
- Launch date: 1 Jan 2027
- Max allowance:
- 50% on first €360/year
- 25% on €360–€1,800/year
- Maximum allowance: €540/year
- Contribution limits:
- Minimum: €120/year
- Up to €1,800/year (for the stated full allowance / tax framework)
- Child allowance: up to €300/year per child
- Standard depot cost cap: 1% effective costs
- Self-managed expected costs: up to 0.5%/year for neo-brokers/direct banks (often higher elsewhere; some free offers possible)
- Payout rules:
- Start: earliest 65, latest 70
- Duration: at least until 85
- One-off withdrawal: up to 30% (tax shock risk)
- Monthly payout recalculated at least every 3 years
- Provider switching fees: up to €150 in first 5 years (as cautioned)
- Example calculator assumptions:
- ETF return 6%, payout-phase return 3%, costs default 0.2%
- Income example: €50,000 today vs €20,000 in retirement
Disclosures / disclaimers
- No explicit “not financial advice” wording appeared in the provided subtitles.
Presenters / sources mentioned
- Thomas (Finanzfoss) — presenter/host
- Markus — appears in the screencast during the calculator walkthrough
- Professor Anja Blatter (University of Applied Sciences for Economics and Environment Nürtingen-Geislingen) — cited as actuary/insurance mathematician contributing to the calculator design
- Finanzfoss — referenced as the channel/source behind the AVD calculator
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